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LOGIN REGISTER NEWSLETTER Home NEWS REVIEWS PRODUCTS COMPARE CARS VIDEOS BUYING USED CARS NEW CARS MOTORSHOWS COMPETITIONS 6 ISSUES FOR £1 Search Car Reviews: You're in - Car Reviews: First Drives Fiat Panda Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet Dynamic Just like the Fiat Panda's namesake in the wild, small diesel cars are a surprisingly rare breed. Despite the obvious advantage of mixing lightweight bodywork with the economy and performance of a modern turbodiesel engine, few manufacturers currently offer such a combination. Auto Express Car Reviews By Kyle FortuneFebruary 2005 Just like the Fiat Panda's namesake in the wild, small diesel cars are a surprisingly rare breed. Despite the obvious advantage of mixing lightweight bodywork with the economy and performance of a modern turbodiesel engine, few manufacturers currently offer such a combination. But by fitting the sophisticated 1.3-litre 16-valve Multijet to its new supermini, Fiat has created the most powerful Panda yet - and added a small diesel city car to the market in the process. Launched in the practical Idea and available in the soon-to-be-replaced Punto, the Multijet produces 70bhp - an increase of 10bhp over the Panda's 1.2-litre petrol unit. The new car has the likes of the Hyundai Getz 1.5 CRTD and Citroen C2 1.4 HDi in its sights, and aims to blend performance and economy. The extra power means the Panda sprints from 0-62mph in 13 seconds and reaches 99mph. As a result, Fiat says the car will appeal to buyers wanting the fastest variant in the range, as well as those looking specifically for an ultra-economical diesel. A loud rattle at idle means there's no mistaking this model is an oil-burner when you start it up, but once on the move refinement improves appreciably. At cruising speeds, the powerplant feels extremely smooth and is quick to respond to the throttle, so long as you don't rev it too hard. With peak torque of 145Nm arriving at 1,700rpm, the Panda delivers its best at low engine speeds. Outright pace isn't startling, but around town the car's impressive in-gear performance gives it a significant advantage in traffic over petrol-powered competition. Where the diesel makes the most difference, though, is on the motorway. Here, the Panda Multijet is capable of cruising without the need for constant gearchanges to maintain speed. Despite the extra weight of the oil-burning engine, the ride is comfortable, and the car feels much more stable than its small size would suggest. The Fiat is more than capable of keeping up with fast-moving traffic. This model will get you a lot further between fill-ups than petrol-powered Pandas, too, and Fiat claims a combined consumption figure of 65.7mpg. Apart from the extra performance on offer, the new diesel is identical to other Pandas. That means plenty of space inside, along with light steering - with the 'city' button to provide further assistance for parking - and a dash-mounted gearshift. Functional yet fun, the Fiat's cabin is more accommodating than its competitors', with the high seating position and large glass area making it feel bigger. Recent changes to the Panda's specification mean the Multijet model now has a CD player, as well as remote central locking, as standard. An optional audio pack is also available - this combines steering wheel controls, a five-disc CD changer, MP3 compatibility and additional speakers for ΂£550. However, the vehicle that was crowned Auto Express's 2004 Car of the Year is not completely above criticism. As soon as you start to specify options such as air-conditioning, the Panda gets expensive. The diesel is already ΂£900 more than the petrol car, and as it's currently available only in flagship Dynamic trim, you'll need to cover lots of miles to recoup the extra cost. That's a pity, as otherwise the 1.3 Multijet is the best all-round performer in the Panda range - particularly if you want to escape the confines of the city once in a while. What Next COMPARE CAR LOANS COMPARE CAR INSURANCE For more breaking car news and reviews, subscribe to Auto Express magazine. We'll give you 6 issues for £1 and a free gift! < Previous Next > 0 Comment Be the first to comment on this article You need to register to post comments. Existing members can log in below to comment, otherwise click here to join. 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All rights reserved.Licensed by Felden || Log in | New account Home Ask Honest John Reviews Best Deals Advice Good Garages News Back Room Insurance Shop FIAT Panda (2003 - ) - Multijet diesel Home » Back Room » Motoring discussion View Threaded Mon 17 Sep 2007 09:01 Multijet diesel - Corrib12 Has anyone done a significant mileage yet in the Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet diesel? HJ raves about it and that's always a good sign. What about noise levels? Load space? Is Fiat build quality up with the best these days? It may be a bit on the small side for me, but I'm tempted by 70+mpg on the open road. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 09:18 Multijet diesel - barchettaman Have you driven it yet, Corrib? Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 09:19 Multijet diesel - Honestjohn Don't reckon on 70+. High 50s, maybe. HJ Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 11:55 Multijet diesel - madf I test drove one. VERY noisy when idling cold....Put me right off it. madf Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 12:44 Multijet diesel - paulb {P} Mrs B has one, in Dynamic spec with the a/c pack (£500). Yep, when it's cold it's a noisy old thing all right and a bit lag-prone, but once warm it's fine. Engine is smooth enough (seems to run best on BP Ultimate) and we have no complaints with the performance at all. Doesn't feel underpowered on motorways; we had a 1.2 petrol version before this one and that did. Brakes (vented front discs, rear drums and ABS) are very good, which in days past was not something you could generally say about small Fiats. Consumption on long trips is about 58 mpg; in daily use (including urban) about 51 mpg. This is with the a/c on all the time. Stupid-cheap to tax (£35) and insure (this year was under £200, including business use for both her and me). Build quality is very good - no bone-headed faults, no creaks, rattles or bits dropping off. In my experience, Polish-built Fiats do seem rather better screwed together. Reliability has thus far been faultless. We picked it up new on 1 August 06; the first time it went back to the dealer for anything was on 1 August 07 for its first service. All it needed in the meantime was diesel, screenwash, occasional air in tyres and the odd wash. Haven't had many cars that have been this well-behaved. It hasn't used a drop of oil, either, which in my experience of running in diesels is most unusual. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 12:53 Multijet diesel - burpie Do small Fiats still have clutch cables which snap all the time? Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 12:57 Multijet diesel - Andy Bairsto no Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 13:35 Multijet diesel - gmac Do small Fiats still have clutch cables which snap all the time? I didn't realise they did snap all the time. I've had five FIATs, all done six figure mileages and the only clutch cable which did snap was on a seven year old 120,000 mile 127 GT. Not what I'd class as a common problem. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 13:46 Multijet diesel - madf I decided on a yaris diesle: 55mpg around town 61-5 on long journeys, less noise and better built. More expensive tho. madf Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 14:11 Multijet diesel - Andy Bairsto Better build quality I doubt that made very near to each other. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 15:03 Multijet diesel - boxsterboy Yaris is built ion east France. Aygo built in Czech Republic (near to Poland, I suppose). Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 15:28 Multijet diesel - Andy Bairsto Not far away compared to Japan ,French or Czech workers much the same. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 15:31 Multijet diesel - Andy Bairsto Actually the fiat is made in Tychy Poland. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 18:47 Multijet diesel - P3t3r >> Do small Fiats still have clutch cables which snap all the time?>> I didn't realise they did snap all the time. They are pretty bad on Cinquecento's and Seicento's, others might be OK though. My one took around 6-7 years to snap though. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 15:35 Multijet diesel - doctorchris New Panda has a hydraulic clutch and the best reliability and build quality in the Fiat range. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 15:46 Multijet diesel - Xileno {P} "...and the best reliability and build quality in the Fiat range" Just as well... ;-) Joking aside, the Panda does appear to be Fiat's 'turnaround' car. One of the surveys put it at about number 8 I think. If they can keep up the good work then things should be much brighter for the company. Fiat 500 looks good. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 15:56 Multijet diesel - madf You are all wrong (of course!:-).. on Yaris sourcing. I believe all diesels are Made in Japan. Mine certainly was. Or someone just put lots of Japanese stickers on to confuse the unwary...:-) madf Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 19:23 Multijet diesel - Pandaman Yes all the diesels were imported from Japan. I had one a great car but expensive. The Panda is much less refined but a lot more fun to drive. I have a 1.2 and not one thing has gone wrong in the year Ive owned it, Id say build quality is up with the best plus it only costs £5K + brand new. How much is a new Yaris diesel with aircon, how about twice as much!!! Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 17 Sep 2007 20:50 Multijet diesel - AlanGowdy My FIAT Grande Punto also has the Multijet diesel and so far (in its first 5,000 miles) it has been operationally faultless and the finish and build quality - inside and out - seem equally impressive. Perhaps FIAT quality is on the up at long last... I do hope I'm not tempting fate by suggesting this! Incidentally FIATs certainly did have fragile clutch cables. Years ago I owned a 128 that snapped the cable at 15,000 miles. The offending part looked about as sturdy as the sort of thing you'd find on a lightweight motorcycle. It put me off the make for a long time. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sun 7 Oct 2007 22:41 Multijet diesel - joe9109 Hi I have done about 30k in my 2005 reg multijet Panda and for the mony its a cracker. I commute 35 miles to work each day on a mix of slow A & B roads with a long fast A stretch and it gives a reported 65 mpg as long as you make the effort to drive with a bit of foresight (the trip comp is about 5% optomistic) keeping below 70 the noise levels are acceptable ride comfort is good and the build I find very good for the money. I have been through 1 pair of tyres and am getting ready to buy a second pair for the optional alloys. I bought Fiat seat covers as the fabric on the seats is a colour that will discolour easily. The only warranty work required so far was when an emission light came on whilst I was away for an extended period & my wife had a local dealer sort it some valve she reported it to me as however she did say it took the garage a while to replace. I find the load space adequate but maybe the split rear bench option is worthwhile. The stereo is ok too though whats the city button for as the steering is light enough anyway. One disappointment was that I had to buy a locking fuel cap though I am sure most dealers would throw it in. I paid £7100 with alloys and Red paint but Ill bet you can get a better deal now though tried a couple of dealers one was the usual difficult to get a deal out of but did eventually offer to match the garage I eventually got it from. Wouldnt like to have to batter it along at high motorway speeds as noise becomes tiresome and economy nosedives. Cheap to insure & tax. Hope this helps Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sun 10 Feb 2008 21:57 Multijet diesel - fiatfreak - fiatfreak Hi, interested in what you say about plummeting economy at high speeds. I borrowed one for a 24-hour test-drive recently: as long as I stuck to the many & various speed limits on A & B roads, I was looking at 63-67 mpg on the trip-computer (which you interestingly say reads 5% fast). But as soon as I 'blatted' along a deserted motorway at high speeds, this fell to 47; and by the time I'd returned the car the following morning, using the same motorway but now heavily-congested, it was reading 51 - which I thought a bit disappointing. Mind you, I recently hired a Peugeot 107 petrol (alias Toyota Aygo), and it only did 45-46 overall - assuming the odometer was accurate - so everything's relative... Don't remember the Panda becoming particularly noisy at high speeds - whereas the 107 drowned-out the radio - completely! - on the M54 at anything much more than 70, so again it's all relative. What you've very usefully thrown-up, is that the Panda Multijet is even more of a nose-heavy little beast than the petrol version (which is to be expected), and that it chews through its front tyres. You talk of virtually two sets in 30,000 miles: if this is representative, it needs to be off-set against the low fuel, V.E.D., and insurance costs of the car. Back in 1996 I bought a Cinquecento Sporting which, like your particular Panda, was on alloy wheels and low-profile tyres: it consumed its front tyres in 12,000 miles with monotonous regularity - but its back ones hardly at all. Fiat must then have 'got at' Pirelli for giving their cars a bad reputation in this respect, so Pirelli then appears to have changed the rubber-compound. Result: 30,000 miles per set of fronts, 75,000 per set of rears - I'm not kidding! - and lousy wet-weather grip... Lastly: Panda reliability. I asked the dealer I've bought several baby Fiats from about this question. The answer, very much like that given by one of the other respondents, is that they come in for routine service and then they go out again - with no 'untoward' work needing to be done. When I invited them to say the same thing about the Punto (or any other Fiat), they poilitely declined! I would agree with the respondent who suggested that Polish-built Fiats (like the Panda) were better than Italian-built ones (the rest). Unfortunately the new 500 has been such a runaway success all over Europe that Fiat are now said to be contemplating building it in Italy as well as Poland: the Polish-built one I drove recently was one of the best-built cars of any description that I've ever been in. I rather doubt that the same thing will be able to be said about an Italian-built one - but how will one know, when placing the order, where one's shiny new motor will be coming from? Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 11 Feb 2008 11:03 Multijet diesel - fiatfreak - madf My first set of Yaris tyres lasted 26k miles at the front. The rears were 60% worn (but a nail ruined one so I replaced them as well...) A lot depends on your driving style. Round here fast cornering on country roads = sudden death or mutilation or drowning or contact with a stone wall...or a cow or a bunch of walkers:-) Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sat 16 Feb 2008 20:58 Multijet diesel - fiatfreak - fiatfreak Of course you're right: a lot depends on the way a car is driven. On the other hand, when I complained to my dealer about the 12,000-mile life of the front tyres on the Cinquecento Sporting they'd sold me, they said they thought I'd done very well! And I thought of myself in those days as a pretty fast driver... One thing I failed to say, is that Fiats CAN still snap their clutch-cables. My Seicento Sporting has just done this, at 6 years of age and ca 50,000 miles. With the car's front wheels hard against a high kerb, when I depressed the clutch there was a loud bang and the pedal went straight to the floor. Being an "old pink fluffy dice" I knew how to get the car home using just the synchromesh and the ignition key - but I rather wonder how many of today's young drivers could have managed it: the young salesman at the Fiat dealer's certainly listened in wide-eyed wonder as I told him the story! Edited by Dynamic Dave on 16/02/2008 at 21:58 Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sat 16 Feb 2008 21:11 Multijet diesel - fiatfreak - paulb {P} Some interesting points about tyre wear on Multijet Pandas - funnily enough I looked at the front ones (Conti EcoContacts) on ours today and was surprised to note that there is just under 3mm of tread left at just over 11k miles. This is to be contrasted with our Mondeo TDCi, which aside from being much heavier and twice as powerful, is driven a fair sight harder but will do nearly 25k on a front pair (Bridgestone ER30). I did wonder if this is partly a feature of EcoContacts though - anyone able to enlighten as to how these wear compared with other makes? Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sun 17 Feb 2008 08:58 Multijet diesel - fiatfreak - doctorchris My daughter's Panda 1.1 Active runs on these tyres and after 22,000 miles there is plenty of tread left. However, I do rotate tyres back to front and vice versa every 6,000 miles so all 4 tyres are about the same. I reckon the set of 4 will last until about 30,000 miles. The 1.3 MJ is a different kettle of fish. Heavier, especially at the front and with a lot more power and torque than the 1.1. Your front tyre wear seems about right and i don't think you will find a significantly harder wearing make. Why not rotate the tyres though. Otherwise you end up with slightly worn rears that are still on the car long after they have deteriorated through age rather than use. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sun 17 Feb 2008 09:55 Multijet diesel - fiatfreak - oilrag Our MK2B Punto 1.3 Multijet van is on original Firestone `Fuelsaver`165/70 R14 tyres and estimated front end wear will be around 23,000. It would be interesting to know the tyre size on the Panda 1.3 Multijet and the comparative weight. I think our van is around 1,000KG regards Edited by oilrag on 17/02/2008 at 09:58 Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sun 17 Feb 2008 21:38 Multijet diesel - fiatfreak - paulb {P} doctorchris - good advice re. rotating - I'll give that a go. oilrag - 155/80 13. Always struck me as a bit skinny, but seem to do the job OK & the extra weight does improve stability - our old 1.2 petrol (with same wheels and tyres) always felt a bit skittish and prone to understeer. Not sure about kerb weight but fairly sure > Hi Corrib. Ive done nearly 90k in my panda diesel which I bought new 3 yrs ago. It runs very very well. It's serviced regularly(although not by the overpriced dealership!) and the only niggle I have is that it goes through front tyres quite quick and the tracking seems to go off easily. MPG I would say is more like just over 60 although the trip computer often shows a lovely 141.2 at times especially when you're coasting downhill etc ! Avoid the dealership at sorry can't name and shame- I find them overpriced and aftersales/service is very poor! I'd certainly have another panda- but not from them! There has been one other fault which has cropped up which I wonder if anyone else has experienced- in heavy rain the airfilter gets soaked and the car loses most of its power- the air intake points straight forward at the holes in the radiator grille and it seems obvious that the water is forced in through there although the dealership says this is rubbish and unheard of..Anyone else had this problem. Also has anyone had any probs with the EMS warning light(the engine management system) coming on? Thanks guys Edited by Pugugly on 04/01/2010 at 08:57 Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 4 Jan 2010 14:54 Multijet diesel - retgwte www.fiatforum.com/panda/ try posting these questions over at fiatforum Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 23 Aug 2010 14:22 Multijet diesel - dawnb Hi. I have the same problem with my fiat panda (06) multijet. After heavy rain it takes ages to start. It is very sluggish to start with. It is then o.k for the rest of the day. Can anyone help please? Many thanks Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Tue 24 Aug 2010 06:06 Multijet diesel - SteveLee I notice some people recommending tyre rotation due to heavy front tyre wear on the multijet Panda, considering it's a fairly light car with a heavy front end bias, I'd avoid rotating tyres to even-out wear - doing so could be dangerous. If anything, allow the front tyres to wear down, put the rears on the front (opposite sides of course) and the fresh rubber on the rears. In other words always have the freshest rubber on the rear and don't let the rears wear beyond 3.5mm tread depth. Light front wheel drive cars tend to aquaplane rear end first - especially a car with such front end bias like the diesel Panda, having newer rubber on the front is asking for a nasty situation if you hit a puddle at speed. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Wed 27 Oct 2010 16:53 Multijet diesel - barksandbytes We've just put our second set of front tyres on at 49k and changed the rears for the first time at 41k, so it's not particularly hard on tyres. The tracking, though, does get out of line very easily. I paid £25 to have the tracking sorted in March, when the rear tyres were changed, and have just been told this week that it's out and caused uneven wear on the fronts (hence the change mentioned above). So another £25!! That means at this rate I'll be doing the tracking two-three times a year, the same cost as a couple of tyres!! RIDICULOUS!!! Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Wed 27 Oct 2010 16:47 Multijet diesel - barksandbytes Hi, We've done nearly 49k over four years and consistently get 65mpg out of our Panda. The highest was 72mpg on a long run to Devon on holiday. We've filled it to the roof with camping gear, dogs and have a trailer/towbar too. I've often taken trailer loads to the tip and bought loads home from the garden centre etc and the mpg is consistently great. The key to this is keep to a steady 60mph whenever possible, break only when necessary (SAFED courses will help with this) and never accelerate hard through the gears. On the fault front it's tiny and you can barely get a weeks shopping in the boot, there's no leg room for passengers and the gearing ratios are awful for driving around town. I'd give it a 7 out of 10. Edited by barksandbytes on 27/10/2010 at 16:48 Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Sun 7 Nov 2010 15:00 Panda diesel 2005-2010 - samuelramsbottom Hi I drove the Panda as my first car (Multijet 1.3). I can report that it is a great performer. Yes, gear ratios are what you might expect from a small car. It is noisy when starting up and cold. Ride can be a little without feel on such instances, but performance is overall very good. Torque is great (around 110-120 lbs/ft). So a proper diesel. It's not as racy as a petrol, but Mpg is around 55mpg combined (brand-new in 2005). Very good. A few issues with handling. It is certainly heavier at the front. Suspension is very good but keep it slow on sharp speed bumps. Don't try overtaking any Ferraris. It's a basic vehicle. Legroom is alright - good for children in the back or four to five adults can squash in for a 10 mile or so journey. If you experience high tyre wear on the front wheels that you didn't quite expect, follow the guidance of another post on this forum and ensure there is good rear tyre tread depth as aquaplaning will affect you on the rear of the car. Do this to avoid an accident. I think we're at a little over 60,000 miles and this equals three sets of well-used tyres. So, you need a new pair at around every 20,000 miles I think, but of course it depends. (Samuel) Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 8 Nov 2010 12:47 Panda diesel 2005-2010 - Andy Bairsto Fiat have just released the pictures of the new range of Fiats including the Panda and they look very nice indeed,since they bought chrysler they will be renaming some cars Lancia and restyling most of the chrysler range .The project is called the Fiat offensive. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 8 Nov 2010 19:11 Panda diesel 2005-2010 - diddy1234 Some of the earlier posts commented that a Charade was performing better on economy than today's diesel cars. Although a valid point, there is one obvious fact to remember. Vehicle weight has gone up due to ever increasing safety laws over the past 20 years. If a multijet diesel engine was fitted into a Charade then I bet you'd see 100mpg easily. Back in the early 80's Rover were working on an all aluminium car (the AR6) and this promised 100mpg with it's 3 cylinder petrol engine. Safety was not a designed in component back then. Just look at the weight of a Corsa today, 1,300kgs for a little 1.2l engine to pull is not great. Ford have a better idea with the Fiesta only weighing in at 930kgs. I am not sure how they both compare on safety ratings though. So it would appear that you can have safety or very good economy but not both. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 8 Nov 2010 23:07 Panda diesel 2005-2010 - samuelramsbottom Lightness helps a lot with mpg achieved. Hence a Smart Car for two will manage around 80mpg in forgiving circumstances. That's with petrol. I would like to point out that if a Multijet diesel engine that weighed the same as a petrol engine was put in a Charade, then mpg would probably be around 80. The diesel Panda weighs 100kg more than the petrol. If they could make diesel engines lighter efficiency would rocket. I hear the Smart Car is a safe car. On BBCs Top Gear they drove it into a solid barrier at 70mph. The door still opened and closed properly and damage was relatively minimal compared to other cars such as the Landrover Freelander. But few want or can afford such minimalism in their life. Think about your push bike. You can lift it over a fence singlehandedly when unladen, cycle to town on it on a chocolate bar or two, yet its a big struggle to carry any substantial load on the thing itself. Basically, in agreement with the above post then, with anything practical such as a small car bigger than a Smart the matter of safety means weight gained in the safety features. The Toyota IQ is small but I think the number of air bags totals at around six. With reinforcements in the chassis and cabin comforts it loses lightness. My push bike's fast but it sure can't carry my food shopping! Society has always been slow for these very pragmatic burdens! Edited by samuelramsbottom on 08/11/2010 at 23:21 Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 8 Nov 2010 23:35 Panda diesel 2005-2010 - samuelramsbottom It is likely that there could be more restrictions on car use in the future. I agree with the below post: petrols are very efficient options these days. The IQ does around 64mpg, for example, and its the same weight as a Panda diesel. But it's an £11,000 motor. It will be interesting to see how cars evolve. Perhaps we will see them become more minimalistic. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 8 Nov 2010 23:24 Multijet diesel - Avant Since this thread started, over three years ago, it's worth mentioning that there are now some highly efficient petrol engines around (not least from Fiat) which come near to diesel economy, are much quieter and don't suffer from the nose-heaviness that you get with a diesel lump in the front of a small car. It's possible that the diesel's shorter tyre life can negate quite a lot of the lessening margin of extra mpg over a petrol - not to mention the expensive repairs that diesel engines will need when the miles pile up and they are, of course, out of warranty. Edited by Avant on 08/11/2010 at 23:25 Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 8 Nov 2010 23:33 Multijet diesel - retgwte in the case of the panda the multijet is chain cam and basically needs little maintenance other than oil changes and consumables such as brake pads and tyres etc the petrol pandas have cam belts which are expensive to replace and a failure point yes the new 2 cylinder fiat petrol engine sounds good, but its only 2 cylinders so one plug goes and you aint going anywhere, where as multijet would keep going on 3 cylinders no problem also the multijet is a very relaxing drive with lots of grunt, one of the few small cars i would be happy to drive long distance and so on Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Mon 8 Nov 2010 23:40 Multijet diesel - samuelramsbottom I haven't needed to do anything physical to our Multijet engine. Longetivity seems to be a real asset of this design, and diesel all over. Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Tue 9 Nov 2010 09:34 Multijet diesel - madf It's possible that the diesel's shorter tyre life can negate quite a lot of the lessening margin of extra mpg over a petrol - not to mention the expensive repairs that diesel engines will need when the miles pile up and they are, of course, out of warranty. I contributed to this thread earlier: about 2007 - when I had bought a 2003 Yaris diesel. Still going strong.. average 57mpg mainly urban. 65+ on long runs.. Shorter tyre life? last lot - cheap and nasty - lasted 30k miles - rotated front to rear. I expect 40k from new Michelin Energy. Reapirs to engine? What are repairs? Apart from voluntary cleaning of EGR valve - 30 mins/not very dirty - just oil and filters... Lots of Yaris diesels going strong with well over 100k cars.. But it's Toyota and not Fiat... Original exhaust system: immaculate... New front discs and pads, new anti roll bar bushes, new tyres. Oil and filter changes.. Period. in 5 years... Edited by madf on 09/11/2010 at 09:36 Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Fri 26 Nov 2010 22:01 Multijet diesel - joe9109 Well over 5 years down the line & I have found the Panda to be a very cost effective car overall cheap tax insurance decent economy. Its not perfect but good for the money hardest thing is to find a good garage to maintain it, it has had the usual Panda weaknesses tailgate handle, water pump 2 EGR vaves & I see signs of new glow plugs & discs are down to minimum now but at 76k can you grumble thats pretty much it other than tyres (dont buy avon cr's ) a couple of sets of wiper blades. It gets 2 oil changes a year regardless of mileage. Not quite a Toyota but close Reply to this message | Report message as offensive | Link Related News & Road Tests Review: FIAT Panda 4x4 2005 Astonishingly capable off road. Stuffed with character and verve. Practical. Superb control panel. 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Warranty Free car buyer service Car depreciation insurance For The 1.3-litre diesel engine is the best in the Panda range in terms of its combination of performance, flexibility and economy. Against There's a big premium to pay for the diesel engine over the petrol engines, which are already pretty economical. And you still have to pay extra for air-con and alloys. What Car? says 3 out of 5 stars We'd love to recommend this Panda more highly, because its engine is great. However, it's too expensive compared with the petrol-engined models. Reader review rating 4.357143 advertisement Full review Compare Female verdict Key facts 0–60mph 13 secs Top speed 99 mph Average mpg 65.7 Tank range 506 miles See all running costs Features See all equipment Size See all measurements View the whole Fiat Panda Hatchback range Cheaper Hatchback 1.1 Active ECO 5dr £7,665 Hatchback 1.2 Dynamic ECO 5dr £8,565 Hatchback 1.2 Eleganza 5dr £9,590 Hatchback 1.3 MultiJet Dynamic 5dr £9,965 Hatchback 1.2 4x4 5dr £11,005 Hatchback 1.4 100HP 5dr £11,005 Hatchback 1.3 MultiJet Cross 4x4 5dr £13,190 More expensive Hatchback 1.1 Active ECO 5dr £7,665 Hatchback 1.2 Dynamic ECO 5dr £8,565 Hatchback 1.2 Eleganza 5dr £9,590 Hatchback 1.3 MultiJet Dynamic 5dr £9,965 Hatchback 1.2 4x4 5dr £11,005 Hatchback 1.4 100HP 5dr £11,005 Hatchback 1.3 MultiJet Cross 4x4 5dr £13,190 The Fiat Panda Hatchback full review Read in full Performance 3 out of 5 stars 1.3 diesel is the best performer Ride & Handling 4 out of 5 stars Responsive and sure-footed Refinement 3 out of 5 stars Hushed for a car of this size Buying & Owning 4 out of 5 stars Should be cheap to own Quality & Reliability 4 out of 5 stars Build feels strong Safety & Security 3 out of 5 stars Reasonable for the class Behind The Wheel 2 out of 5 stars Good, but the tall may suffer Space & Practicality 3 out of 5 stars Okay headroom; rear space is tight Equipment 3 out of 5 stars Base models miss some essentials Watch video See all Or view… Ford Fiesta Volkswagen Polo Buyer's notes Target Price team says: There’s a good range of engines available in the Panda, but our favourite is the 1.2 petrol unit. It’s a peppy little engine that really suits the car; and, while the 1.3 turbodiesel gives better performance and is both more flexible and more economical, it’s far too expensive to buy. The Panda’s three-star Euro NCAP crash-test rating is a little disappointing, but if you do want to buy one, it’s worth checking out the company’s website, as from each model’s page, you can click through a ‘Latest Offers’ section, where you can find details of special edition models and money-off offers. And remember, even when there is an offer, you may be able to haggle more off if you visit a dealer in person. Also, while you’re on the website, don't forget to check out the Accessories range as well - there are plenty of useful bits and pieces here. 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Depreciation Running costs When & where to buy What to buy How to haggle & win Scandal: cut & shut Scandal: clocking Car repair disputes Buy & sell disputes Car insurance valuation disputes Other Experts Used Van Expert Car Warranty Comparison - Warranty Expert Useful sites Free content on your site Fiat Panda 1.3 Multijet Dynamic - Car Review Review Added: 30 Sep 2005 Last update: 25 Dec 2009 HOW do you pep up a Panda? Arm it with the world's smallest common rail turbodiesel and wait for the buzz.Transferred from the bigger Punto, the 1.3 16-valve Multijet unit brings 70bhp and 107lb/ft of pull into the 3.5m-long, 935kg city car, making it the quickest Panda in the family. Overtaking is confident and long climbs don't faze it.The five-door babe can do nigh on 100mph and I can vouch for the fact that it is quite at ease in keeping up with the general pace on a motorway, not, you would think, the Panda's natural home.This sort of speed is not good for economy of course, but I was still rewarded with 53.4mpg over a 50-mile sprint - be more circumspect and the Multijet will, according to official stats, deliver more than 75mpg on the open road. The average return is in excess of 65mpg.Adding to this frugal appeal is an ultra-low emissions rating and a ground-floor insurance group.Having motorway credentials is a bonus for a city car, even though road and wind noise off the upright frame rise with the pace. The shape also means a touch of lean through bends and the ride can bounce a touch, but neither to the extent it discomforts the driver.And the feel is quite good, courtesy of the two-level power steering settings. You get the most noticeable benefit in town when you employ the City button and enjoy ultra-light handling.Add in the minute dimensions and the Panda is a joy to thread through heavy traffic and to park in tight spaces. The ride is also more settled here.A highish driving position and considerable glass areas are further assets for smaller-frame drivers.These are the product of the upright build, which, along with the wheels-in-corners design, also generates a surprising amount of interior space. A dash-mounted gearshift means an uncluttered front, while the rear area is adult-sized.And there's still capacity for a fair boot - 206 litres, which swell to a more-than-useful 860 litres when you fold the bench rear seat. The big hatch, between tower light clusters, ensures easy loading.Indeed, the Panda scores highly in practicality. There's height adjustment of the steering column and sense in the layout of controls in the dashboard, which also shows imagination in its design.The wall-to-wall grey plastic is much less appealing and I wasn't knocked out by the two-tone yellow of the upholstery in this particular car - the azure alternative in this Dynamic trim appeals more to my particular tastes.But comfort levels were good and I enjoyed the driving position - all right, you can't see the nose, but there's not much of it so that's not a problem.The 1.3 Multijet Dynamic's standard fixtures include electric front windows, twin front airbags, ABS with electronic brakeforce distribution, trip computer with multifunction display, radio/CD player, bottle holders, immobilser, remote central locking and the Dualdrive electric power steering I mentioned earlier.No aircon in this model, you'll notice. Nevertheless, it's a good package in a sub-£8,000 car which has a bright, fun personality and performance and adaptability to boot. The economics are the icing on an enjoyable cake.FAST FACTSFiat Panda 1.3 Multijet Dynamic 5drPrice: £7,895Mechanical: 70bhp, 1,248cc, 4cyl diesel engine driving front wheels via 5spd manual gearboxMax speed: 99mph0-62mph: 13 secsCombined mpg: 65.7Insurance group: 2CO2 emissions: 114g/kmBiK rating: 15%Warranty: 3yrs/ 60,000 miles; 3yrs paint; 8yrs anti-rust Words: John Scantlebury Keywords: fiat, panda Rate this article: Login to rate this article... New search Can't find the answer you need? If you register you can ask our experts a question. For stats you can visit our Facts & Figures section. PLEASE NOTE: To diagnose a car fault or get help with a technical problem, please check our buyers guides or visit our forum. 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