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The Fiat Ducato is the same van as the Citroën Jumper and the Peugeot Boxer, which are all very popular vans to convert into motorhomes. All these models are produced at the same Fiat factories in Italy and Brazil, and under licence in Elabuga (Russia) by Russian automobile company Sollers JSC (formerly Severstal Auto) since 2008. Since 1981, more than 2 million Fiat Ducato vehicles have been produced.[2] Contents 1 First generation (1981–1993) 1.1 Engines first series 2 Second generation (1994–2006) 2.1 Engines second generation 1994-1999 2.2 Engines second generation 1999-2003 2.3 Engines second generation (facelift) 3 Third generation (2006–) 3.1 Engines third generation 4 Fiat Ducato and Peugeot Manager in Mexico 5 Notes 6 External links [edit] First generation (1981–1993) First generation Production 1981-1993 Body style(s) 3-door van 2-door pickup Engine(s) 1.8L I4 2.0L I4 1.9L Diesel I4 2.5L Diesel I4 Related (1st Gen): Alfa Romeo AR6 Peugeot J5 Citroën C25 Talbot Express (2nd Gen) Peugeot Boxer Citroën Jumper Zastava Ducato (3rd Gen) Peugeot Boxer Citroën Jumper The Ducato was first launched in 1981 then redesigned for 1993: engines were 2.0-litre 4-cylinder petrol or 1.9 diesel. Trim levels were base, S and SX. The vans were manufactured in the new Sevel Sud factory in Val di Sangro, Italy. Other almost identical vehicles were the Alfa Romeo AR6, Peugeot J5, Citroën C25 and Talbot Express (1986–1992). Model variants were named according to carrying capacity: Ducato 10 (1.0 tons), Ducato 13 (1.3 tons), Ducato 14 (1.4 tons) and Ducato Maxi 18 (1.8 tons). The Ducato Mk1 was very popular as a basis for campervan conversions. [edit] Engines first series Model Type Power 1.8 petrol 69 PS (51 kW; 68 hp) 2.0 petrol 75 PS (55 kW; 74 hp) 2.0 petrol 84 PS (62 kW; 83 hp) 1.9 diesel 70 PS (51 kW; 69 hp) 2.5 diesel 74 PS (54 kW; 73 hp) 2.5TD diesel 95 PS (70 kW; 94 hp) The Ducato was popular as the basis for motorhome conversions. [edit] Second generation (1994–2006) Second generation Also called Peugeot Boxer Peugeot Manager (Mexico) Citroen Jumper Citroen Relay (United Kingdom) Production 1994-2007 Body style(s) 3-door van 4-door van 2-door pickup Engine(s) 2.3L Diesel I4 2.0L I4 2.0L Diesel I4 1.9L Diesel I4 2.5L Diesel I4 2.8L Diesel I4 Transmission(s) 5-speed manual 4-speed automatic Ducato second series Facelifted 2nd gen. Ducato Mobile Home (2006) Facelifted 2nd gen. police Ducato in São Paulo New Sevel produced version. Peugeot changed its name to Boxer and Citroën is named as Jumper (Relay in the UK). One of engine options was Fiat 2.5 L diesel, which was replaced with 2.8 L Iveco/Sofim engine in 1998 . The Ducato Goods Transport has a payload of 12 m cubed and comes with a choice of four engines. The 2.0 petrol, 2.0 JTD, 2.3 JTD 16v or the 2.8 JTD. They all conform to the Euro 3 standards and offer programmed maintenance management. The range includes two types of gearbox: a mechanical box with a five-speed manual plus reverse and an automatic transmission with four speeds plus reverse. The Ducato Passenger Transport has a carrying capacity of 6 to 9 people and comes with the 2.3 litre JTD 16v engine, which again is Euro 3 compliant and delivers 110 bhp. The Ducato Combi is a mixture of the Goods Transport and the Passenger Transport. It is ideal for the transport of people and goods alike, and it can accommodate up to 9 occupants. Model designations were Ducato 10 (1 ton), Ducato 14 (1.4 tons) and Ducato Maxi 18 (1.8 tons). Second series was restyled in 2003 with the addition of rear and side bump mouldings and revised front grille. The engine range was: 2.0 JTD, 2.3 JTD 16v and 2.8 JTD, 2.5 diesel was dropped way. Model designations were changed to reflect maximum gross weight: Ducato 29 (2.9 tons), Ducato 30 (3.0 tons), Ducato 33 (3.3 tons) and Ducato Maxi 35 (3.5 tons). Ths generation are corrent produced in Brazil, in Iveco plant, in Sete Lagoas. [edit] Engines second generation 1994-1999 Model Type Power 2.0 petrol 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) 2.0D diesel 81 PS (60 kW; 80 hp) 1.9TD diesel 82 PS (60 kW; 81 hp)-90 PS (66 kW; 89 hp) 2.5D diesel 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) 2.5TDI diesel 115 PS (85 kW; 113 hp) 2.8D diesel 87 PS (64 kW; 86 hp) 2.8TD diesel 139 PS (102 kW; 137 hp) [edit] Engines second generation 1999-2003 Model Type Power 2.0 petrol 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) 1.9D diesel 85 PS (63 kW; 84 hp) 1.9TD diesel 90 PS (66 kW; 89 hp) 2.0JTD diesel 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) 2.3JTD diesel 110 PS (81 kW; 110 hp) 2.5TDI diesel 116 PS (85 kW; 114 hp) 2.8i.d.TD diesel 125 PS (92 kW; 123 hp) [edit] Engines second generation (facelift) Model Type Power 2.0 petrol 110 PS (81 kW; 110 hp) 2.0 natural power CNG 110 PS (81 kW; 110 hp) 2.0 G power LPG 110 PS (81 kW; 110 hp) 2.0JTD diesel 84 PS (62 kW; 83 hp) 2.3 JTD 16V diesel 110 PS (81 kW; 110 hp) 2.8 JTD diesel 127 PS (93 kW; 125 hp) 2.3 Multijet (Brazil - 2009) 16V diesel 127 PS (93 kW; 125 hp) 2.8 JTD Power diesel 146 PS (107 kW; 144 hp) [edit] Third generation (2006–) Third generation Also called Peugeot Boxer Citroen Relay Peugeot Manager (Mexico) Citroen Jumper Production 2006-present Body style(s) 3-door van 4-door van 2-door pickup Engine(s) 2.2L I4 Diesel 2.3L I4 Diesel 3.0L I4 Diesel Transmission(s) 6-speed manual Wheelbase SWB Relay/Jumper: 3,000 mm (118.1 in) SWB: 3,450 mm (135.8 in) LWB: 4,035 mm (158.9 in) MWB (Truck Only): 3,800 mm (149.6 in) Length SWB Relay/Jumper: 4,963 mm (195.4 in) Boxer/Manager Chassis Cab: 6,208 mm (244.4 in) SWB Truck Relay/Jumper: 5,258 mm (207.0 in) SWB Truck: 5,358 mm (210.9 in) MWB Truck: 5,708 mm (224.7 in) MWB Truck Relay/Jumper: 5,608 mm (220.8 in) LWB Truck: 5,943 mm (234.0 in) LWB Truck XL: 6,308 mm (248.3 in) SWB: 5,413 mm (213.1 in) LWB: 5,998 mm (236.1 in) & 6,363 mm (250.5 in) LWB Truck: 5,843 mm (230.0 in) LWB Truck XL: 6,208 mm (244.4 in) Width 2,050 mm (80.7 in) Height SWB: 2,524 mm (99.4 in) & 2,764 mm (108.8 in) Truck: 2,254 mm (88.7 in) Boxer/Manager Truck: 2,153 mm (84.8 in) Boxer/Manager Van: 2,522 mm (99.3 in) The third generation Ducato was launched in 2006. The vehicle was available in many variants both for people and goods transport. Carrying capacity was again increased, with the following designations: Ducato 30 (3 tonnes), Ducato 33 (3.3 tonnes), Ducato Maxi 35 (3.5 tonnes) and Ducato Maxi 40 (4 tonnes). [edit] Engines third generation Model Type Power 2.2 Multijet diesel 100 PS (74 kW; 99 hp) 2.3 Multijet diesel 120 PS (88 kW; 120 hp) 2.3 Multijet diesel 130 PS (96 kW; 130 hp) 3.0 Multijet Power diesel 157 PS (115 kW; 155 hp) [edit] Fiat Ducato and Peugeot Manager in Mexico This third generation Ducato has been available in Mexico since November 15, 2007, and over 30 different models are available. The third generation Ducato is currently only offered in the Mexican market in North America, but Fiat plans to import the vehicle to the United States and Canada to be sold under the Ram brand. As part of the joint venture between PSA Peugeot Citroen and Fiat Group, the Peugeot version of the Fiat Ducato, known as Boxer in Europe, is also available in Mexico, but with the "Manager" nametag. [edit] Notes ^ "fiatgroup.com". fiatgroup.com. 2007-03-16. http://www.fiatgroup.com/comuni/php/file_get.php?w=NDOPGL4LDI8MWXCPERTD. Retrieved 2010-12-10.  ^ "FIAT DUCATO PRODUCTION BREAKS TWO MILLION MARK". italiaspeed.com/2008. http://www.italiaspeed.com/2008/cars/fiat_professional/11/ducato_2_million/1911.html. 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Yes No View Results Search Fiat Ducato road tests and consumer car reviews Read all 85 reviews Have your say! The Ducato has been built with large projects in mind. With loads of new class-leasing features, a bigger load space and more powerful engines, it will help you get jobs done quicker, whatever business you're in. Fiat Ducato consumer reviews by year of make: 1985 1993 1996 1998 2000 2001 2002 2003 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 Recent responses, questions and answers A response has been made to Brett Tolhurst (03/11/2010 08:30:34) A response has been made to Philip Doonan (20/10/2010 21:31:52) A response has been made to Lewis Beattie (15/10/2010 22:17:58) A response has been made to Tony Farrow (29/09/2010 21:46:08) A response has been made to Phil Roberts (08/06/2010 11:15:54) A response has been made to Ash Pocock (08/05/2010 12:08:48) Richard Wilson has asked this question: "From time to time, for no apparent reason, when I apply the brakes, the pedal is hard for a few very frightening seconds and then resumes its normal position. This is happening more frequently as time goes on and I am concerned that sooner or later the brakes will fail. I have changed the vacuam pum..." (07/12/2010 09:44:45)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Rod Baker has asked this question: "What sort of mpg does a 2.5 Fiat Ducato return?" (03/11/2010 14:59:27)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Dave Parridge has asked this question: "Hi, I have a Fiat Ducato 2.8 motorhome which has done 13,000 miles and the alternator siezed up which meant I had to have a new one. Is this common with this engine? Thanks!" (22/10/2010 09:22:19)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Brian Johnson has asked this question: "The vehicle is experiencing a vibration problem. After approximately 45 minutes from a cold start and reaching speeds of 40 - 55 miles per hour the vehicle starts to shake, best described as like a dog getting out of water and shaking itself dry. I have had all the wheels balanced, cleaned the fuel ..." (19/10/2010 09:43:13)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Brian Wade has asked this question: "We have ordered a new motohome but are undecided on the engine size. Whether to have a 130 or a 160. Could you please tell us which is the most fuel efficient? The motorhome is a autotrail apache which weighs three and a half tons and is twenty three foot six inches long. Many thanks!" (19/10/2010 09:22:22)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Stephen Shaw has asked this question: "We purchased a Ducatto based motorhome from new. It has now done 8,000 miles. The last 1,000 miles has seen a constantly appearing engine management light and misfiring on starting with various degrees of smoke. The dealership replaced the throttle support which cost 480 quid and the light still com..." (30/09/2010 09:58:03)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Tommy Crawford has asked this question: "I have 2.3 Fiat Ducato and it will not start, there is no power going to the injectors. What could it be?" (27/09/2010 10:10:03)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Christopher Lewis has asked this question: "Are the new Ducato’s that Fiat are knocking out minus their previous reverse gear problems? If so, then what is the safe registration vehicles to look for? For example, brand new 2011?" (22/09/2010 14:40:40)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Carol King has asked this question: "What should the tyre pressures be for our 4 berth Fiat Ducato Motorhome, we do not have the handbook for this specification is 32psi front and 35psi back too low, or should we have 50psi all round, we have received conflicting advice please can you assist. (4 berth motorhome) " (20/09/2010 08:40:05)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Tommy Crawford has asked this question: "My 2.3 Fiat Ducato will not start. It was going alright and it has only 13,000 miles on it. It turns over alright and it is geting fuel - what can it be?" (17/09/2010 09:01:47)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Charlie Anderson has asked this question: "Can anyone help me with an ongoing problem? Just after a Christmas trip to see family in London we developed a fault with our camper van that meant we couldn’t turn it off and very occasionally not turn it back on again. We took it to our local garage and left it with them for a fortnight and ..." (10/09/2010 09:09:56)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Linda Fletcher has asked this question: "I am experiencing a high pitched whining noise coming from the battery charger under the seat when plugged into the mains 240 v. When I pull the plug out of the charger the noise stops. The noise gets louder the more load that is used and I cannot identify what is causing it. My dealership say they ..." (02/09/2010 15:17:18)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Jan Gama has asked this question: "I have a Fiat Ducato 56 reg new face van with a Ford engine. When I start the van it stops immediately with a lot of black smoke and noise issuing from the injectors. When this happens, even if the fuel tank is full the fuel gauge indicator shows empty. Computer diagnosis shows fault with the EGR se..." (19/08/2010 15:18:52)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Lorraine has asked this question: "I have a problem with my motorhome - my fuel guage fails to register at all. Can anyone give me any advice on how I can fix this problem?" (13/08/2010 08:25:33)Can you help? Read the question in full and provide an answer Stephen Shaw's question has been answered: "This engine had a recall on it in 2007 for replacement of faulty/blocked egr valve - work to be carried out by dealers on a voluntary corrective action. This egr report 2007 states quote: the product poses a risk of injuries because water that turns into ice at low temperatures can get into the EGR ..." (08/11/2010 11:24:07) Read the full answer Brian Johnson's question has been answered: "Hi Brian, try checking your wheel bearings - Dave Partridge from WarwickshireIf it does this when under acceleration, chances are it’s a bent drive shaft. I just had the same problem on a Peugeot Boxer - Ric from England " (05/11/2010 09:22:00) Read the full answer Carol King's question has been answered: "Hi Carol, if you go to the Kwik Fit tyre pressure search webpage - http://www.kwik-fit.com/tyre-pressure-search.asp - and enter your motorhome’s registration it will provide you with the recommended front and rear tyre pressures - RoadTestReports.co.ukHi Carol, first you do not say what ..." (18/10/2010 08:14:13) Read the full answer Linda Fletcher's question has been answered: "I had a similar noise coming from a caravan charger. It was a faulty component inside, I think it was a condensor. It was easy to spot - it was smelling of burning and blackened. It was only a couple £ from a electrical components supply firm and needed to be soldered in place. The hardest part of t..." (20/09/2010 08:30:45) Read the full answer Fiat lease prices | Fiat Ducato lease prices | Fiat Ducato new and used vans for sale Other people need your help Your review will help others decide which vehicle to buy. By spending just a little bit of time filling out a review you can share your experiences with other drivers, giving information only owners will talk about, no marketing spiel, just the real thing. We publish all reviews, whether you rate the vehicle high or low. We are impartial. We are independent. We are committed to 100% real reviews. Please give others the benefit of your advice: give them your review. Your review will be checked for offensive language within the next few days and then put on RoadTestReports.co.uk and all of our partners websites. Have your say! Fiat Ducato consumer car reviews Number of reviews: 85 Looking for advice? RoadTestReports.co.uk takes counsel from the Trading Standards Institute Peter Traill, England Fiat Ducato 130 based motorhome 2007 I own a Fiat Ducato 130 based motorhome. The brand name being Caravan International. Last September I was travelling to The Czech Republic, passing through Germany, when the rear nearside wheel bearing collapsed, causing extensive damage to the hub assembly and the brake-system. All in all the cost of repairs was some £1,150.00. The vehicle at the time of the incident was 2 years and 34 days old. Yes, you’ve got it, Fiat have just dug their heels in and refuse to consider any form of help, I have spoken with technical advisors from the RAC and the Caraven Club, and a comapny of bearing manufacturers who express surprise at a wheel bearing giving up the ghost after such a short time, the recorded mileage at the time of repair was 19323. Fiat are a poor example when it comes to customer care, however I have to say that the dealership in Germany was first class and they had me back on the raod within 24 hours. I also have nothing but praise for the dealership in the uk that services my vehicle (Stoneacre of Wrexham) The are very good and helpful, they in fact suggested I should register the vehicle to have the gear box modified to overcome the judder which is so common on this vehicle. It was registed and the job completed within two weeks with only two days off the road. Judder now extinct. So Fiat themselves leave a lot to be desired, their agencies appear to be carrying the burden of a poor parent company. Submitted: 27/11/2010 14:42:39 | ID: 6564 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Ivor Treaise, Devon Fiat Ducato 2.8 2001 Our van had one owner, 5000 miles, been a big load of c**p, in garage for gearbox but no parts available. Submitted: 06/11/2010 20:38:52 | ID: 6452 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Jeff Goodrich, Hertfordshire Fiat Ducato 2010 An absolute pile of s**t! I don’t have the time to write a list of faults. Palmers in Watford my local Fiat dealer are as unhelpful as it is possible to be. Never again will I get any Fiat. Submitted: 21/10/2010 18:17:46 | ID: 6353 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Andy, Cheshire Fiat Ducato 3.0 Power Comfortmatic LWB Chassis Cab 2010 Just bought, supplied with factory air suspension. First trip resulted in a twisted airbag on the rear and it is now back with Fiat... Submitted: 20/10/2010 21:12:09 | ID: 6350 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Perica, Zaire Fiat Ducato L2H1 3.0 2010 I bought a Citroen Jumper (Fiat Ducato) 3.0 160KS. The engine is a Iveco, towing 1000 rpm to 4000 rpm. Van goes 200 km/h at 3400 rpm, and consumption ranges from 6.5 l/100km to 9.5 l/100km. The engine is very quiet, the road speed of 180 km/h runs at 3000 rpm, This is definitely the best combination in history. I have already done 100,000 km, 3.0 and 2.3 is the best engine for the van. The suspension is very stiff and holds corners like hell. With the chip reaches an impressive 200 hp. Conclusion: It is an attractive (robust) design. I have nothing but praise. Submitted: 17/10/2010 21:20:47 | ID: 6335 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Brett Tolhurst, England Fiat Ducato 2.2 multijet diesel 2005 Avoid, has been broken for two years off and on, now dead! Will start and drive until you slow down and cuts out. Had 3 egr valves, 1 airflow meter, 1 fuel pressure regulator, 1 ecu upgrade and 100’s of trips to the garage. Now nothing and a few grand later. Hiring a van and am skint! What now? Any ideas??? Responses to this review It sounds like your vacuum pipe is on the wrong way round - Tony Bevan from Essex Submitted: 07/09/2010 22:53:18 | ID: 6068 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Ivor Problem, England Fiat Ducato 2.2 multijet diesel 2007 Purchased van new in May 2007. I have to agree with pretty much every previous writer - great purchase price but boy-o-boy do you pay for it in the long run. Here’s a short list of problems; Engine management light on - water in fuel injectors. New EGR valve. Lumbar support in drivers seat broke in a matter of days. Misted up nearside headlight. C.D. player broken Rear door release buttons popped out 1st time used. New fuse box. Engine stalling whilst idling. Nothing covered on 3rd year of warranty. Local Fiat dealer a joke (a bad one). I’ve been out today a ordered a new V.W. van, pity the poor bloke who buys my trade in. Submitted: 21/08/2010 21:50:15 | ID: 5961 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Phil Roberts, Essex Fiat Ducato 2006 We purchased a New Fiat Ducato 160 Maxi extra long and high van with the Comfortmatic gearbox that we had converted into a motorhome of our design. We did have a few teething problems however the problems where promptly rectified under the warranty by a Iveco/Fiat dealer in Hildenbourgh, Kent. The dealer went out of the way to accommodate us and even lent us a small van! We have now covered almost 20k miles travelling around Europe and the vehicle has performed faultlessly. In my opinion a lot of the problems reported especially with motorhomes is because of the low vehicle specification of the base chassis. We ordered our vehicle on a 4 ton chassis with the 160 engine, self levelling air suspension, extra large wheels & increased load index tyres, climate control, light & rain sensor engine sump shield etc etc. As with most motorhomes on the road they are overweight, we had to have the GVW increased and re-taxed as a private HGV because of the fully laden weight. The vehicle is very stable on the road even with high crosswinds on motorways, in fact I now prefer to drive this rather than our car due to the ride, seats and the higher driving position. If you are buying a motorhome based on any vehicle manufactures chassis make sure that you go for the highest specification possible, you are asking for trouble with a small engine and standard suspension otherwise you are just asking for trouble. Also bear in mind 80% of motorhomes are built on a Fiat chassis therefore you are going to have a lot more feedback than for other manufactures. Responses to this review Fiat commercial vehicles are quite good value for money. I have had a Doblo for 4 years now and it’s the best car I’ve ever had, being utterly useful and also great in town. Sliding back doors, easy access, great turning circle, economical diesel engine and fantastic visibility - Ana Cuellar from United States of America Submitted: 20/07/2010 21:38:04 | ID: 5721 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Si Ki, England Fiat Ducato 9 seater combi van 2006 I bought this vehicle to do airport transfers, 300 miles ex demo and 8 month old, now done 70,000 miles, out of warranty, engine has gone bang and dual mass fly wheel u/s what a nightmare. Get your money out! Lost an absolute fortune in business, parts very expensive , will have to sell it asap once completed repair. Don’t buy a Fiat, they look good, drive good, but when they go wrong don’t bother repairing. Submitted: 29/06/2010 21:34:36 | ID: 5538 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Tex Gowing, France Fiat Ducato 130 multijet 2008 Hi to all. My wife and I purchased our Mc Louis Motor home 9 months ago and had a similar problem to some of the writers of these reviews in that the starter battery drained without cause. Being an old diesel fitter, I took both the battery assemblies apart cleaned them replaced the fuse in the battery then put everything back together. I trickle charged the starter battery over night, cleaned the solar pannel and have not had to touch it again since. That was January. As for the loose fitting negative junction on the starter battery, a simple way to improve it is to put one or two bits of soldering wire down the length of the terminal or even one piece that folds over the top, then put the assembly over the whole thing. When you tighten it up it makes a firm fit as soldering wire will flatten out under pressure, you can even tap it with a small hammer before introducing it to the terminal. That was a cracking tip about the radio by the way to change over the wires. There is no doubt if left in, even though turned off, the radio will drain the battery, we have also experienced that situation. Apart from the things I have mentioned there has been no problems, (touch wood) with our Fiat engine or gear box, just lucky I guess judging by the reviews. Submitted: 28/06/2010 09:59:25 | ID: 5530 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Nev Ayrton, Lancashire Fiat Ducato Hymer 534 motorhome 1993 I bought a Hymer 534 motorhome on a Fiat Ducato chassis. I had previously had a coachbuilt motorhome on the same chassis but with a 2.5 turbo diesel that had been fitted, after the previous owner found that the 2.0 petrol engine was useless. The turbo diesel wasn’t much better, and the gearbox was particularly bad changing down from 3rd to 2nd despite having had all the linkages renewed, a new clutch, and the synchro on 2nd gear replaced. It was a nightmare to drive, and particularly noisy despite being "soundproofed" The second time it was used the alternator packed up on the way home leaving us with no lights or windscreen wipers. Having sold this van for a massive financial loss, I recently bought the Hymer thinking that Fiat would have improved over the years. No such luck! On the way home from buying the van I encountered the Fiat judder when reversing out of a parking space. The engine was so noisy with tapett noise that I was deaf on reaching home. Not good I thought. On the first outing, having invested in an engine blanket to slightly minimise the racket of the engine, I stopped for diesel and found the engine wouldn’t start, as the battery was totally flat despite having driven for 90K when by rights the battery should have been fully charged. Deja Vu I thought. Thanks to some kind-hearted lads that gave me a push start I managed to make it home, but as soon as I switched off the engine it wouldn’t restart. I tried charging the battery, and it managed to start OK so I made arrangements to take it to a local garage the following day, but to my horror, the following morning the battery was again completely flat, so it would now appear to be either the battery or the alternator, or both that are defective, which seems rather unlikely that both would fail together. Having read some of the posts on here I am no nearer finding out what the problem is. I used the van over a 3 day camping weekend stopping and starting, using the 12 volt systems and also the 240v hook up with no problems whatsoever. I am wondering if it could be something to do with the relay switch over from the leisure battery as it shows as fully charged on the dial on the zig unit. Unfortunately there is very little information with the van, which is a German import. All the documentation is in German, and there is a very basic English instruction book which is pretty useless as what information it contains is stating the bleedin’ obvious! Has anyone any idea where I could possibly obtain an English translation for the vehicles mechanical and habitation instructions without it costing a fortune from Hymer, or being totally useless as the 6 page document I got with the van. It would appear that Fiat doesn’t really have a customer service follow-up and the same mistakes appear to occur with monotonous regularity. Responses to this review Had a simular problem, turned out to be an earth strap from the chassis to engine. There was bad contact on chassis. I cleaned it up and fitted it back. everything is ok now - Keith Neighbour from Cardiff For translation into any language you can try Google translator.German to English. You may have to laboriously type it out but once it is done it is done - David Lamb from Isle of Anglesey Submitted: 05/06/2010 21:17:01 | ID: 5371 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Martin Drought, Australia Fiat Ducato 3.0 turbo diesel motor home 2007 We bought the 3.0 litre turbo Ducato diesel motor home 2 years ago. We have loved it until the water pump died at 16,000k’s while on holiday, 1600k’s from home. The judder has always been an issue but we try not to use reverse when possible. To their credit the Australian dealer has done all possible to take care of the problem while the Fiat roadside assist people made sure we were taken care of. As I type this we are waiting for a water pump to arrive from Italy and then be fitted. We hope the good service continues. Submitted: 27/05/2010 09:34:46 | ID: 5309 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Tony Farrow, Norfolk Fiat Ducato 3.0 power curtainsider 2010 I Work for a local haulage company in Norfolk and they have recently purchased a Ducato power with 3.0litre engine in. One of the best vans I have driven in my driving career. The company own a second hand ’V’ reg Ford Transit and that was a heap of c**p. The Ducato is a big step up from the Ford in every factor. The bhp and torque in it is on top of the job. The only downside to this van was at 12,000miles the clutchplate shattered and required a whole new one. It would be nice to hear from other owners of this type of model and their experiences. Responses to this review I bought a Ducato 160 3ltr Eura Mobile motor home in November 2008. I asked before I paid for it if the clutch juddered in reverse. The sales person confirmed that it did not. I had not left their premises before most of the fillings in my teeth fell out because of the reverse gear vibration! The dealers told me to contact Fiat, which I did, and almost two years on, despite talking to any number of people on their staff nothing has been done to correct the problem. I have been told that there is a modification to the gearbox available for the smaller engined vehicles, but not the 3 ltr. It has now covered 9,000 miles. It is fantastic to drive forwards. Smooth and very powerful. It flys up steep mountain roads and returns 24 mpg. It is on a 4.25 tonne Alko chassis. This vehicle would be perfect if I could back the thing up. Trying to reverse into a tight camping bay is a nightmare - Rob Earl from Kent Submitted: 20/05/2010 22:05:36 | ID: 5259 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote AirandPort Transfers, Devon Fiat Ducato 8 seater airport bus 2005 750,000 miles, four sets of wheel bearings on the front. 15 brake sets on the front. Apart from tyres that is it. Awesome vehicle, passengers love it, top class all the way around. No other problems, will write again on its 1,000,000 Birthday Submitted: 13/05/2010 20:48:12 | ID: 5212 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Sarah Heads, Wiltshire Fiat Ducato 1.3 1985 Hi, I bought a Fiat Ducato 1.3 1985 in March. The first time I was going to take it out it wouldn’t start. I thought it was the battery, but it turned out to be something different. I have had the spark plugs replaced (which is cheap) and now it starts no problem. Submitted: 05/05/2010 21:43:54 | ID: 5161 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote HME Ltd Leeds, Yorkshire Fiat Ducato swb 2.0 jtd 2005 Our company purchased a Fiat Ducato 2.0 jtd swb in march 05,and it’s been a great van; alternator replaced 3 times, new diesel pump fitted at 117000 miles, apart from that never had any bother with it. The van is currently on 133000 miles, runs great, serviced every 10000 miles and compared to the Ford Transits of the same age it has no rust at all. It is now due for renewal but seeing what other vans are available and the amount of problems they suffer, i’ll be sad to see the trusty Ducato get traded in as it has been the best works van I’ve ever had in the 20 years I’ve had one. Responses to this review What mileage to the gallon do you get with this van? Thanks - Hugh Torley from East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) Submitted: 02/05/2010 22:06:43 | ID: 5138 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Shaun Mc gilloway, County Londonderry Fiat Ducato 2.3 diesel 2007 Purchased van new in May 07 from a main dealer in Coleraine who no longer is the Fiat dealer and who washed their hands of the third year warranty. Nice van to drive, when not in the garage being repaired! Lots of problems; heater replacements, gearbox issues, towbar lights(which they fitted) and engine management and other issues. DO NOT BUY A FIAT DUCATO, MINE IS STILL UNDER THE THIRD YEAR WARRANTY AND I JUST PAID 840 QUID TO HAVE IT REPAIRED INDEPENDENTLY.THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE IS RUBBISH!! Submitted: 24/04/2010 22:49:49 | ID: 5094 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Ash Pocock, Hampshire Fiat Ducato Maxi 3.0 Auto - Burstner Argos 2008 Bought the Motohome from Southdowns in October 2008. Prior to delivery test drove a manual variant and experienced the reverse juddering and clutch problem, but was assured that this problem did manifest itself on the ’auto’. Not the case, judders just as badly on the auto! Registered a case number with Fiat and dealer, but have never been offered any corrective work. Having read about the problems with Fiat dealerships and warranty and reluctant to have the vehicle ’messed about with’, have been gingerly driving around UK and Europe, avoiding reversing. So far no other problems have materialised, so keeping fingers crossed that I don’t have a ’friday’ vehicle. Concerned that Fiat have really not fixed this problem, but am running out of warranty, so may have to bite the bullet and face the aggro with Fiat. Responses to this review I have a Rapido 7090+ with a manual gearbox 3 litre Fiat Ducato 160 engine which I bought new in July 2008. Reverse judder has recently started at about 7500 miles. The verbal recommendation I received from FIAT Custmer Service was to reverse at no less than 2000rpm. I got my FIAT commercial dealer to complete a road test and file a report with FIAT Technical which has confirmed that providing 2000rpm is maintained there is no judder. FIAT have now confirmed in writing that this now indicates there is no fault present with my vehicle. Have asked that they provide an extended warranty for the clutch which they have refused. I am now in the situation that I try to avoid reversing unless it is downhill. Does anyone with the same problem have any recommendation on how to get FIAT to do something? John Ellison from Gloucestershire Submitted: 24/04/2010 22:40:59 | ID: 5092 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Dave Roberts, Hampshire Fiat Ducato 2009 I have had my Ducato 2.3 for just 1 year and only covered 4000 miles. It has had the ’B’ modification to the gear box but is still juddering in reverse. Despite many phone calls to Fiats, so called, Customer Relations, that’s a joke, I am still no further forward. I have been told that I can take it to the local dealer but should they find it to be in order then I will be charged for any investigative work carried out. Also as it is a motorhome and I can walk through between the front seats, the floor has split, but I am now told that my local agent will not undertake the work as Fiat will not pay them for the amount of hours it takes to remove and refit a new floor. I am still waiting for Fiats response to this after now having 3 different case numbers given to me and making 8 phone calls and pushed around to untold office workers. This is my third Ducato and I have always praised them up until now, but I think it will be going very soon and I will be looking for something very different Submitted: 23/04/2010 11:03:12 | ID: 5086 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Ronald Allsopp, Warwickshire Fiat Ducato 1.3t 1985 Me and my wife bought a Fiat Ducato 1.3t 1985 plate, we had it now for just over 8 months. I have tried to jump start it but it will not have it. This is all new to me and my wife so we don’t know if there is a certain way you have to charge the battery? If there is anybody who knows it would be good. Submitted: 20/04/2010 21:13:03 | ID: 5063 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Chris Lewis, Cornwall Fiat Ducato 2.3 multijet engine 2008 Purchased our Fiat Ducato 2.3 multijet engine new in Nov. 2008, with a Swift Lifestyle body layout. While trying to contend with the multi defects contributed by Swift, we then turned our attentions towards the reverse gear vibration. Fiat have tried for months to bury their heads in the sand, just hoping that we would all go away. They have stayed in denial for quite some time, hoping that our collective van problems would dissapear. Well they have not. I have had their Phase:1 stronger more robust engine/gearbox mountings fitted. Also Phase:2 a replacement (slightly ) lower reverse gear fitted. All to no avail as the vehicle responds just the same. The Fiat Dealership and their mechanics are in full agreement with me, that the fault remains, and they consider Fiat’s mechanical interventions to be worthless. Fiat as a company are treating us all as irrelevant, now that we have purchased their unroadworthy expensive vehicles. I have spent a life time on the spanners having been a garage proprietor, class 1 driver and an advanced driver, so I believe that I have enough experience to know a dodgy vehicle once driven. Fiat when asked, will not extend the warranty on our vehicle for another 3 years, about the time we would be changing it. If they are not willing to do this, then that says a lot about their faith in their so called remedy work. We should all get together and fight them en masse, then and then only may they eventually listen to their so called ’valued customers’ instead of trying to pick us off, one at a time until we give up. The press need such a story badly, any takers? Regards and Good Luck! chrislewis5626@googlemail.com Submitted: 15/04/2010 20:03:49 | ID: 5030 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Philip Nicholson, Derbyshire Fiat Ducato Trigano Tribute 2009 Used it for one continental holiday, 6000 miles, nice to drive on the road but no need for 6 speed box,5 speed would be better. Lets its self down when you reverse, judders badly unless you slip the clutch, which because of dual mass flywheel will cost an arm and leg to replace. I THINK MOTORHOME MANUFACTURERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES BUILDING ON THIS CHASSIS. Sold mine, I can sleep at night now. LONG LIVE THE FORD TRANSIT. Submitted: 07/04/2010 22:16:03 | ID: 4950 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Paddy Winter, Ireland Fiat Ducato Ducato 14, 2.8D 2002 I bought my 2002 Fiat Ducaton 14 Long Wheel Base/High Roof from a private seller in Belfast in 2009. It is the 2.8D non-turbo version. It has a mileage of less than 70,000 and had two previous owners. I converted it to a camper for which it is really suitable. I managed to squeeze a shower/toilet, fridge; couch which folds into a double bed, cooker etc and lots of overhead storage. I removed the bulkhead panel between the cab and interior and installed two swivel seats. One of the great things about the Ducato is that it is widely used for this purpose and parts are easily obtainable. The engine is strong but slow. I took it to Cornwall last year and the long hauls on the hills there were a nightmare. Given a second chance I’d insist on a turbo diesel version. The Ducato drives easily, gear changes are smooth and steering very comfortable by virtue of the large steering wheel. Being a car driver I had no problem manouvring the Ducato in any car park I encountered with the extra length never being an issue. The big door mirrors give an excellent view and reversing is easy. I’ve read of complaints of "juddering" when reversing up an incline but to be honest I’ve not experienced any of this. There is a small stain of water appearing in the passenger footwell but without taking off the dashboard I can’t ascertain whether its rainwater or a leak somewhere in the heater matrix assembly. It is small an irritating but the water level in the system seems to be unaffected. The van is basic having no electric windows, cruise control, air conditioning but to be honest it gives less to worry about malfunctioning particularly in an old van. A frined of mine recently replace the electric window switch on her Toyota Avensis at a cost in excess of ?300! God bless the simple window winders in the Ducato, 8 years old and still working. The body work still holds it’s own in that the only signs of rust (and only surface rust at that) are on the underside of the steel crossmembers under the van, due I imagine to the salting of the roads of Northern Ireland due to their colder climate than here in the "deep south" of Wexford in the Sunny South East. In conclusion have a good look before you buy but be confident that the Fiat Dealerships in Ireland are very helpful, even to DIY mechanics :) Responses to this review I bought a New Fiat motorhome 3 Litre in 2008. Approx 10 days after purchasing it I found that it would not reverse without shaking violently, I reported this to Dethleff and Fiat and the seller. Two years on I am no further forward other than having to instigate legal proceedings. I personally would not recommend Fiat as a company to even people whom I’m not fond of. They are dismissive and unwilling to accept the obvious that this thing burns the clutch and shakes in reverse. Of course it will not shake if you’re willing to get it up to 5pmh + in reverse but who is willing to risk that one! - Gerard Moyn from Ireland I bought a new Fiat Ducato motorhome in 07. Only got 8000 miles on it and the water pump went. You are all right about Fiat. They did not want to know. Would never recommend them to anyone. They would not even make a comment about the water pump failing with such a low mileage. What about the water in the engine compartment? They have acknowledged this as a big problem but three years on now and still no solution - Trevor from Hampshire Submitted: 27/01/2010 18:37:41 | ID: 4456 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote George Mangan, Bedfordshire Fiat Ducato 2007 I’ve owned this van for 20 months from new. It is a 120 2.3 SWB Ducato, it has less than 25K on it with 3 faults to date: Fan heater only works on speed 4, has been in twice for this but it still is not fixed; Judder in reverse, I reported this on the last service but nothing has been done and now the clutch is staying down. Otherwise fine, but will now sell before it goes wrong after reading all the reports. No service has been good from Fiat don’t buy one. I am scared to keep it in case I get stuck with repairs in the future. Responses to this review The fan speed problem is just a dodgy connector at the fan in the passanger footwell - Alan from Dumbartonshire Submitted: 08/01/2010 21:25:14 | ID: 4252 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Richard Wilkinson, Warwickshire Fiat Ducato Trigano Tribute 2006 BRAKE FAILURE!?! I have owned my 2.3JTD 110hp since new in Mar’06, it is the last of the Mk3’s before the latest ’ugly model’. Mine runs a Spider Tuning Box at 156bhp (Dyno’d!) and I have to say that overall it has been just great with problems whatsoever until now! I’ve done a bit of web surfing lookong for an answer but it doesn’t seem to be a issue: I last used the van yesterday morning and all was okay; tonight there is -8 degrees of frost outside and I just tried to use it and the brakes don’t work at all. There is no resistance in the peddle which can be pushed to the floor. I can pump up pressure but afterwards the peddle goes back to no resistance. I checked to fluid resovior and the brake fluid level is as it should be so what’s happening? Responses to this review UPDATE: Now the freezing weather and all the snow has all gone I finally got around to having a good close look at the van; particularly because I was facing a £200 tow-in charge. Firstly, what a stupid shape the brake fluid resovior is: The portion you readily see at the front with the filling cap is filled with brake fluid and when you take the cap off it’s full! However look more closely around the side, under the bulk towards the back and it’s virtually empty! Stange thing is I did a full visual inspection of all the brake and clutch lines and the brakes themselves and could find no evidence of a leak whatsoever. I filled up the reservoir with new fluid and bled the brakes through in the normal way which seems to have cured the problem. The brake pedal is now rock hard and the brakes are sharp and much better than they were before so I can only imagine the brake fluid level has been low since it was new. And all this despite the van going through 3 annual services at a Fiat Main Dealer Garage. I usually do my own servicing so I know it’s been done right but this van was under warranty from new, however now that’s expired I’ll be doing my own servicing from now on - Richard Wilkinson from Warwickshire May be leaking into the servo? - Paddy from Ireland Could have been empty since new, and when experienced 8 degree of frost the seals hardened and fluid bypassed them, pedal going to floor - Chris Hardy from England Submitted: 23/12/2009 22:10:17 | ID: 4124 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Adrian Smith, Hampshire Fiat Ducato 2007 I bought a ducato van in July ’07, it has a ’shudder’ problem. Fiat UK has told me they have no part for this van to stop the shudder in reverse gear. This is a load c**p because they have it for their motorhome model and it is the same make of van. What a load of C**P. Responses to this review It’s not C**P, it’s true! There is no cure available, both vans & motorhomes with the smaller 2 & 2.2 ltr engine and manual box have the problem of shuddering when reversing up hill. Fiat’s advice is to avoid having to do it! Source: Motorhome Monthly Magazine. The larger 3ltr engine and Smaller Engines fitted with Automatic Gear Boxes don’t have the problem, these are more popular amongst Motorhome Makers so perhaps that’s what you are thinking of - Richard Wilkinson from Warwickshire The motorhome gearbox is not the same as the normal van - Kev Roberts from Yorkshire My 2007 motorhome was taken to the garage in November, 2009 to rectify the juddering. Fitted new clutch, engine mounts and reduced ratio reverse gear. Came back not a lot better. Customer relations lady reply to this was that it will never be a 100%. Motorhome currently back in garage (now in third week) as it wouldn’t start and they have said the timing has jumped and guess what the third year warranty doesn’t cover timing belts etc. My vehicle has done a mere 8000 miles. Hope you get rid soon, seems I’ll be stuck with mine - Caroline Harkness from Dumfriesshire Hi, guess what? I have a 3.0L Auto Ducato Maxi Motorhome, and YES, it does judder/burn clutch in reverse! Also proved this to be the case when I test drove a manual version. Fiat have acknowledged the problem, but no recall or fix that seems to work. Opinion is that the reverse gear ratio is too high, so without a gearbox mod’ there is little chance of fix. Apart from the judder the vehicled has been fine, and the auto complements the 156hp very well, with the only annoyance being cruise control which tends to hunt from gear to gear or drop 2 gears rather than one on slight inclines - Ash Pocock from Hampshire Submitted: 10/12/2009 12:51:24 | ID: 4062 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote M Ben, Lanarkshire Fiat Ducato 2.8jtd 2000 I bought a six berth motorhome last summer. I can cruise at 75 mph all day with no problem and lots of power. No problem with the g/box. Very happy with it. Submitted: 03/12/2009 21:18:28 | ID: 4013 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Rich, Yorkshire Fiat Ducato 2.2 100hp 2007 I got the Fiat Ducato 2.2 100hp van in 2007 absolutley brand new. After approx 7000 miles it was in the garage with an engine management problem. Fiat sent out a ’specialist’ to diagnose the problem, which took over 2 weeks. Luckily the dealer lent us a fiat doblo replacement vehicle with no first gear selection, and had to fight to get third gear! A couple of months later the van was back in the garage for another 2 weeks, this time it had many problems, e.g catalyst cracked, new turbo, oil leaks, in total this van has had 3 new turbos in less than 2 years. The van has had a problem with the tick over since day one, which has been attempted to be fixed but never lasts more than one day, then the tick over is faulty again and the van just cuts out. This van has been in the garage that many times I have honestly lost count, but we have averaged it’s every 8-12 weeks that it has to go back in. The van is knackered again and cut out on me on a busy road. It can’t stay running on idle or low revs, it just cuts out. We have rung Fiat many times and they offer NO help or advice what so ever, and will not admit to any fault of their own! The van has only done 40,000 miles and sounds like a bag of knackers. Also worth mentioning: the wipers have broken due to no fault of mine, both headlight motors have blown, both headlights hold water and are now mouldy inside, we have had the floor replaced in the cab due to a big hole appearing after 7000 miles. DO NOT BUY A FIAT, SERIOUSLY. NO CUSTOMER SUPPORT AT ALL. USELESS Responses to this review I have a similar engine problem with my 2.3 multijet 120bhp, it will not start. 2 weeks at dealer and now Fiat tech guy is coming to look 2moz. Hope he finds something... Jason Trevor from Flintshire Submitted: 30/11/2009 15:26:28 | ID: 3992 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Simon Potts, England Fiat Ducato 2.3 motorhome 2007 I’ve had the camper for just under 2 years now. I’m currently on my 3rd engine battery. Responses to this review Basically my advice to you sir is to buy a Solar Panel Trikle Charger from Maplins that sits on the dashboard and plugs into the accessory socket. Then all you need to do is ignor people whose main purpose in life is to sell new batteries to gullible people who don't need them. You cannot possibly need to be on your third battery, charge it up if you can't use the vehicle more to keep it charged - Richard Wilkinson from WarwickshireI highly recommend this as I fitted one to my camper and a bigger one to my caravan which is all 12v lighting and have had no problems with battery. Great advice, take it - Ronnie Watson from Scotland Submitted: 27/11/2009 22:01:24 | ID: 3972 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Charlton, Durham Fiat Ducato 2005 I took a chance back in 2005 and bought a new Fiat Ducato. The van gets serviced every 15000 miles and is a diesel. 60 000 miles with no breakdowns and still going strong. Submitted: 17/11/2009 09:44:24 | ID: 3899 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Stu Brookes, Suffolk Fiat Ducato 2007 Good van BUT Fiat Warranty & Customer Service is without doubt the worst I’ve ever seen. The 3rd year warranty covers nothing! I bought 3 years cove new in 2007, wish I had gone to Ford as the Warranty is a true 3 year no quibble cover! Submitted: 10/11/2009 09:56:08 | ID: 3850 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Richard Lewis, Devon Fiat Ducato multijet lwb 2007 What a disappointment this van is! The mpg is worse than the old model. The clutch and gearbox never felt right from new, the shuddering is awful in reverse but fiat told me this is not a common complaint but it obviously is. After 12 months the rear doors have split where the hinge bolts to the inner skin (check these out before your doors fall off.) The replacement doors lasted 9 months then the same thing occurred but Fiat then washed there hands of this problem so this is going to cost me lots of money. The doors are generally flimsy and squeak and rattle so bad that it drives me mad!! It’s going to be a sprinter for me next time!! Responses to this review There have been numerous reports about reversing (mainly uphill) from a lot of motorhome owners and Fiat now do accept it is a fault, as they have tried various repairs, new clutch, modified rev gear (original fit too high), new engine mounts to name a few. Some have been modified with sucess. Read problems in the MMM motorcaravan mag - Miguel Bottle from KentI am trying to get my 2008 auto-trail 2.3 diesel 6 speed gear box, which has reverse gear judder, (the judder is caused by the reverse gear having a higher gear ratio I’m told) to have the modification as suggested by Fiat (new stiffer eng mounting and re map reverse gear), then if that cures the judder, Fiat will go no further. This probably will cure the judder, but not the problem. When you think they allowed these vehicles onto the market 2/3 years ago without understanding the problems, what chance do we have trying to make them understand how dangerous this can be? - John Mackay from SomersetMight help if this Citroen/Peugeot/Fiat had a proper gearbox in it for a start with a PROPER reverse gear (syncromesh, like the Ford and Merc). At least you’d be able to back up silently without people turning heads to wonder where the hell that invisible whiny, backwarding-car-noise is coming from... As for the shudder, wouldn’t that be something to do with the suspension and the fact it’s a long wheelbase? I had similar problems with the old Renault Master - C R from Norfolk I have just bought a 2007 Auto Trail Cheyenne 632 Fiat with 2.3 D 130bhp and 6 speed GB with cruise control and am finding it dificult to find anybody to give me a rough MPG for this 35000kg campervan. Could you help me in this matter and e-mail me on peafaulk@btinternet.com Thanks. - Peter Faulkner from Norfolk Submitted: 08/11/2009 15:24:56 | ID: 3845 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote John, Berkshire Fiat Ducato 2005 I saved hard to buy this motorhome. I think I get about 75mpg as it spends most of its time on a breakdown truck. I’ve been to 2 Fiat garages now and can do a journey of about 200 miles before the AA comes out. Submitted: 22/10/2009 08:24:35 | ID: 3757 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Barbara Caine, Dorset Fiat Ducato 2.3 multijet maxi 2007 I have had no problems, one recall upgrade on fuse wires. I love the van, but... as a courier this van, although there is no denying that it works hard, in the first 6 months had a recall and I also reported a problem with check strap on the driver door. There was no problem, they replaced it. At the time I also pointed out rear driver door had dent coming out from inside van door. Van had first year service with Fiat, no problems. Now, after 8 months I have taken it back to report fault with rear doors not closing properly and that the top hinges on both doors the metal underneath has started to break open. In my disgust they said I had waited too long and that the check strap was broken and this caused the CONSEQUENTIAL damage to the top hinges of the rear door and this is not covered by warranty. So I took it a little further to Fiat customer service and they have returned an offer of £100 towards repair work and that I have to pay for the rest. As I feel ripped off due to the fact the warranty manager and Fiat customer services have made this decision on photos I do not feel that this is a fair warranty decision or customer care. I will not purchase another, cheers Fiat. This van has 3 years warranty and there is nowhere in the warranty manual does it say consequential damage is not covered or that you have to be a vehicle expert to notice damage being caused to your van so you can report it quicker. I have the van since Dec 07. Submitted: 13/10/2009 09:21:39 | ID: 3716 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Mary Morton, Yorkshire Fiat Ducato Ci Carioca 705 motorhome 2008 13 months ago we bought a Ci Carioca 705 motorhome with a 2.3 multijet diesel 6 speed mounted garbox. We have 2,000 miles on the clock and a serious reverse gear judder problem - daren’t even reverse onto the levelling blocks! Fiat have done 2 modifications. Sent up their technical man to test drive it. Judder is just as bad, but they say they have done everything they intend to do and that it is within normal limits. Our life savings and retirement dreams stand abandoned in the drive - we just cannot risk the expense of having to replace a burnt out clutch not covered under warranty. Our advice - DON’T TOUCH A FIAT WITH A BARGEPOLE. THEY DON’T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THE LITTLE MAN. Responses to this review I had to reverse up a hill in Spain coming back from Morroco. The engine and gearbox lept all over the place even when slipping the clutch, which I nearly burnt out. When I came back to the UK and took it to my local Fiat commercial garage, Fish Brothers in Swindon. Fiat fitted a new bigger engine and gearbox mountings and said to try it again,which I did but it was still the same (reverse gear was too high, about the same as 2nd foreward) I complained to Fiat HQ in Slough and to Fiat in Milan and they sent a new clutch and new gearbox with a lower reverse gear, which Fish Brothers have fitted. This seems to have cured the problem. P.S. Chelston Motorhomes at Wellinton have fitted loads of new gearboxes to some of their customers 2 year old'ish motorhomes anymore info required phone me on 01993 843310 as i came across this site by accident and would not know how to get back to it - Pete Ranger from Oxfordshire Submitted: 13/10/2009 09:16:12 | ID: 3715 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Mervyn Hardingham, Norfolk Fiat Ducato swb 2008 The van had to have a new starter motor with less than 10 miles on clock. It has been back twice for gearbox judder and vibration, the dealer confirms there is a problem. A Fiat technician road tested the vehicle and does not agree. Fiat will not give me the technician’s report. I just hate reversing uphill and I will never buy another Fiat comercial vehicle. Responses to this review Hi Mervyn. Sorry to contact you this way but this is the only site I could find you on I am researching my late fathers family Ivan Culley Ivan had a sister Dorothy Evelyn Culley born in Lowestoft Suffolk in 1932 and married Kenneth J Harding ham in 1950 is this your parents? We would love to contact you as I never knew my father Ivan as he died just before I was born hope you receive this OK. Suzanne Lee from Yorkshire Submitted: 09/10/2009 11:57:02 | ID: 3693 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Elle DeLacy, Lancashire Fiat Ducato 2009 The 5 stars on this report are nothing to do with a Ducato... they are for the people who have written reviews on here. We saw a Ducato on the road and liked the look of it so we went to a few dealers and looked them over. Naturally the dealers told us just what wonderful vehicles they are and very nearly talked us into putting down a deposit there and then. Because its a lot of money we decided to come home, think about it and then make our decision but I know my husband had already made up his mind to buy one and was just humouring me. I decided to look online for some reviews/opinions/etc to make up my mind one way or another .... I found this site and I am soooooooooooo grateful for the honesty of all the contributors. We will NOT be buying one. Thank you all for not letting me waste my money. Responses to this review Hi just read your review I am sorry that you have been put off the Ducato by negative feedback. In my view the problem is that most motorhomes are overweight and are built on a basic chassis with a small engine. If you are still looking for motorhome make sure it has the 160 engine if based on the Fiat Ducato and it has air suspension, if not have the air suspension fitted as an aftermarket accessory, this applies to any make not just Fiat. I have just left feedback on the web site and reads as follows; We purchased a New Fiat Ducato 160 Maxi extra long and high van with the Comfortmatic gearbox that we had converted into a motorhome of our design. We did have a few teething problems however the problems where promptly rectified under the warranty by a Iveco/Fiat dealer in Hildenbourgh, Kent. The dealer went out of the way to accommodate us and even lent us a small van! We have now covered almost 20k miles travelling around Europe and the vehicle has performed faultlessly. In my opinion a lot of the problems reported especially with motorhomes is because of the low vehicle specification of the base chassis. We ordered our vehicle on a 4 ton chassis with the 160 engine, self levelling air suspension, extra large wheels & increased load index tyres, climate control, light & rain sensor engine sump shield etc etc. As with most motorhomes on the road they are overweight, we had to have the GVW increased and re-taxed as a private HGV because of the fully laden weight. The vehicle is very stable on the road even with high crosswinds on motorways; in fact I now prefer to drive this rather than our car due to the ride, seats and the higher driving position. If you are buying a motorhome based on any vehicle manufactures chassis make sure that you go for the highest specification possible, you are asking for trouble with a small engine and standard suspension otherwise you are just asking for trouble. Also bear in mind 80% of motorhomes are built on a Fiat chassis therefore you are going to have a lot more feedback than for other manufactures - Phil Roberts from England Submitted: 28/09/2009 10:29:53 | ID: 3628 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Philip Doonan, County Down Fiat Ducato 20 MultiJet MWB 2007 This van was easily the worst purchase we ever made. In the first week the heap wouldn’t start due to an engine management problem. The dealership put it down to jump starting!!! A week old van??? After this the gear box rattled like a bag of spanners and had to be completely replaced. To continue the windscreen washers failed for the first time and the entire door trim came off in my hand when closing the door. The central glove box then opened on its own and cracked itself nicely - it now has to be permanently locked to keep it in one piece. Next the windscreen washers failed again and had to be replaced. On came the engine warning light again and the van would stall on motorways losing all power for braking, steering and lights - nice... Now the side door decided to pop off - got that fixed but the closing sensor on the door then developed a problem and we had to disable the buzzer as it was driving us mental. The washers failed again and the drivers mirror has turned into a lettuce leaf - flapping in the wind and cannot be adjusted - the only alternative is a complete replacement at �400 plus vat. As i write we’ve been to the dealer again to have the windscreen washers replaced again and the door sensor repaired again. Nightmare - looks good, loads of room so one star but what a heap - do not buy this poor mans van!!!!! Responses to this review Could you please tell us how to disable the buzzer? It is driving us crazy also. Thanks - Chris Lloyd from England Submitted: 10/09/2009 09:02:07 | ID: 3539 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Steve Lane, Worcestershire Fiat Ducato 2-litre petrol 1996 I bought my campervan in June 2009. It’s petrol but nicer to drive than a deisel. I’ve been all over the place in it and think it’s great. I bought it from Highbridge, near Brean; two brothers have a small garage with abought 12 on the front. They told me people are getting trouble with the new Fiat Ducato’s but the older ones seem better. Submitted: 08/09/2009 08:52:46 | ID: 3535 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Colin Floyd, England Fiat Ducato motorhome 2008 Rubbish. Bought new from dealer 6 weeks ago. Broke down twice as we attempted to go on summer holiday. Has been in a FIAT garage in Redon, Brittany for 8 days now waiting a replacement part. Fiat Assistance are useless and there is no customer service. DO NOT BUY ONE!!!!!!!!!! Submitted: 13/08/2009 10:47:33 | ID: 3408 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Nigel Bidle, Sussex Fiat Ducato Motorhome 2007 Motorhome with reverse vibration over last two years. Just had work done with Fiat dealership, still have same problem. Fiat can not do any other repairs, they suggest replacing gearbox at my cost. Customer care is c**p. I will never buy any other car or van from Fiat. Submitted: 13/07/2009 10:19:08 | ID: 3221 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Lesley Edgar, Yorkshire Fiat Ducato 1996 I have a problem with my 1996 Ducato. The engine cuts out when the indicator is switched on or the headlamps are flashed. It is a very intermitent fault. Has this happened to anyone else? Responses to this review I’ve had an intermittent fault, which caused the same problem,after investigation I found the ignition feed multiplug under the dash was not correctly pushed together. The problem had only occured 6 or 7 times in 3 or 4 years, but has been fine since - Dave from Derbyshire Submitted: 08/07/2009 09:49:18 | ID: 3206 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote William Harrison, England Fiat Ducato Moncayo Mediteranneo 2008 We purchased a brand new Fiat Ducato Motorhome and broke down on our first outing with the loss of most of the engine coolant due to a faulty inboard heating unit. On the second outing we had to terminate our holiday early as the inboard battery became flat due to a faulty charger and an audio signal loudly emitted a bleeping signal which we thought would be audible outside the van as it was late at night. We have also experienced judder in reverse which we are about to register with Fiat. We are losing faith in this vehicle as we have experienced many teething problems. Submitted: 19/06/2009 09:07:43 | ID: 3117 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Phil Coles, Bedfordshire Fiat Ducato 2.2 Good van to drive but like a lot of others has EGR valve problems & it is a nightmare getting Fiat to fix it. Has any one else noticed the spot welds cracking & breaking free on the lower rear door hinge stiffening plates? Open the doors & look- my right hand one has bust & fiat just don’t want to know. My mates Maxi is starting to get the same on 08 plate (mines 07). Be interested to hear of any more. Submitted: 15/06/2009 12:03:09 | ID: 3100 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Ted Short, Cumberland Fiat Ducato 2006 I have had a 06 new shape Ducato from new. And have had nothing but bother with it as already mentioned; glove box is flimsy and was broken within a week, all the plastics on the van are prone to damage. Water pump went after less than 30,000 miles the sliding door has never worked or locked without pushing it with your shoulder despite being looked at three times. Now after only 40,000 miles the clutch slave cylinder has gone and it is inside the gearbox will cost me over £1,000 as Fiat say it isn’t covered by the final year drive only warranty. The van drives well apart from when in reverse and it judders like hell. My advice is do not buy a Fiat. Nearly forgot the spare tyre holder had to be cut to get the tyre out as it did not work - only six months old. Submitted: 04/06/2009 08:44:33 | ID: 3049 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Ian Barker, Yorkshire Fiat Ducato 2.5 Tdi diesel motorhome 1998 I am reasonably happy with my Ducato, it is after all ten years old. I was surprised to find that it is not wax injected on production. I wish to comment on Rich Davenport’s problem ie. the discharging vehicle battery. I had a similar fault which turned out to be the split charge unit. One of the relay contacts had stuck leaving the lesure battery permanently connected across the vehicle battery. This had resulted in the lesure batteries fuse blowing when I started the van and the vehicle battery being connected to the habitation 12 volt system whilst the lesure battery was disconnected by the blown fuse. Hence the vehicle battery was feeding the various devices that I leave on when I park up the van and loosing it’s charge. Hope this helps, Ian Barker. Responses to this review Can you help me? I have just bought a Fiat Ducato Euromobil Motorhome 1998 but I do not have a users manual.Can you tell me where to get one from? - James Pitkeathly from Lanarkshire Submitted: 01/06/2009 09:37:33 | ID: 3029 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Rich Davenport, Gloucestershire Fiat Ducato 2008 Does anyone on here have battery problems? I bought my new CI Mizar Elite motor home on a Ducato base last October and within a couple of days the battery needed a jump start. We took it beck to the dealer who in fairness fitted a new battery without any quibble but since then, I’ve started the Ducato no less than 5 times since using jump leads because there was insufficient power in the battery to even turn the engine over. Of course, when you talk to Fiat they just shrug their shoulders and tell you that it must be driven regularly in order to maintain the battery. But for anyone else with the same problem, I suggest (and it probably won’t make a lot of difference anyway) that you have a look at the ’arrangement’ Fiat use on the negative side of the underfloor battery. I think I’m right in assuming that battery terminals should be "Tight" but the connection that Fiat use on their latest Ducato does seem to leave a lot to be desired as there is no way that it can be tightened sufficiently unless like me you release the connection and try to get it farther down the negative pillar, thus making a tighter connection. Although the connection on my battery is a ’tad’ tighter than before, the battery still loses all its power over the course of a week or so, and then I have to resort to jump leads again. Responses to this review I had the same problem. It was the radio draining the battery although it was switched off; there are two wires going to the radio that have to be changed over, i.e. red to blue, blue to red then you can have the radio on without having to turn on the ignition but it switches it’s self off after 20 minutes. Better than a flat battery every 14 days. Barrons that was, fixed mine - Cliff from Durham Submitted: 29/05/2009 10:17:17 | ID: 3023 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Andrew Andrew, Durham Fiat Ducato 2.3 2006 We run 6 vans in all and our two Fiat’s are the only vans that we have had no problems with in 3 years. The rest are Ford’s and they are never out of the dealers. Submitted: 13/05/2009 11:14:54 | ID: 2943 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote John Davis, Warwickshire Fiat Ducato Hobby 725 2.8JTD 146BHP 2006 Purchased new in Germany in January 2006; face lifted mark 2, LHD 4,500 kilo ALKO chassis, tag axle Hobby 725 motorhome with 146 bhp engine [uprated engine only available in lhd]. Drives superbly, pulls like a train, will cruise all day at 80mph, plenty of poke for overtaking. Fuel consumption 21 - 27 mpg. Mileage 35,000 kms (date now; 06/05/09); nothing has gone wrong/fallen off, nothing has been replaced (which is more than can be said for the motorhome conversion). Came with cruise control, twin airbags, cab air con, elec. mirrors, CD player. Good van, well pleased. Submitted: 07/05/2009 08:51:53 | ID: 2907 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Sajjid Khan, England Fiat Ducato 2007 I had bought a Fiat van in march 2007 as a Trigano Tribute camper. I have had no problems with the van as it is now known for practicality. After common problems with clutch Fiat had started to resolve these issues in 2006. I now have no fear whilst touring Europe. An excellent van and motorhome to buy. Well done Fiat, nice one. Submitted: 21/04/2009 11:30:35 | ID: 2835 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Callum Macleod, Nottinghamshire Fiat Ducato 20jtd 2008 Had my van for 1 year - no problems, starts first time. There was a problem with the fan switch and found a brake pad stuck on so mpg not so good until that was fixed. Other than that no complaints, a good cheap van. Submitted: 14/04/2009 10:53:23 | ID: 2787 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote David, Renfrewshire Fiat Ducato Hymer 574 2006 Re: FIAT Ducato problems: Gerard Moyne, Northern Ireland Fiat Ducato 2008: I need people to contact me re: the difficulty with Fiat Ducato Motorhomes Vans! My 2008 4.5 tonne motorhome is shuddering in reverse gear and the clutch is burning when trying to reverse due to a problem known by Fiat to exist. I am looking at taking a class action re: this problem and need anyone who has a problem to contact me. moyne@gpsi.ie Reply: I bought a new French Hymer 574 - 2006 model, put on the road Jan. 2007 - nothing but problems! Investigation shows that our chassis left Italy for Hymer Germany autumn 2005, so it hung around until we bought the vehicle end of 2006. As to the Fiat Ducato chassis. I have the Iveco 2.8 engine - fine. Chassis: front wheel bearings failed, replaced in Paris free of charge last September, but took 3 days as the part numbers with ABS & without ABS are the same, but some bits that were required are different - the told me. Failure of Ducato front wheel bearings is a well know weakness. Reversing on a slope: bad clutch judder as the ratio is too high - a well know problem which I have and Fiat don’t want to know about. Fiat France tell me there is a ’short gearbox’ with a lower gear ratio that can be fitted at customer’s expense. HYMER should have not built a 3.5 vehicle on this chassis. Speedo was for the usual 16 inch wheels, but Hymer used a series of special chassis with 15 inch wheels (cheaper for them). Took a year for the complete speedo assembly to be replaced under guarantee by approved Fiat (Iveco) dealer here in France Hand break failed several times causing two accidents. Re-tensioning by Fiat dealers failed to overcome the problem. Explanation: this is caused when the rear break assembly is hot. When the hand brake is first fully applied to maximum, it works. BUT, as the mechanism cools, the breaks soon began contract, slowly relaxing the grip thus allowing the vehicle to move if on a slope. No remedy for this, block in first gear, I am told. As to the Hymer problems, too long to explain here, but we have had to resort to legal assistance to try to have outstanding faults repaired and still await parts to arrive from Germany. And as a journalist, in direct contact with the director of Hymer France, who I meet each year at the big exhibition in Le Bourget - Paris, I still can’t get anywhere! Basic problem is the motorhome constructors have had such a demand in recent years for their products, they just don’t care when their dealer has our money. Also, the Ducato van chassis is not designed to be permanently loaded to 3.5 ton, I am told. And under your UK regulations there is the C1 category of 3.5 ton un-laden, up to 7.5 ton maximum weight (which does not exist in France, but in Germany they drive 3.8 ton on a car licence). Many motorhomes are too heavy for the commercial van chassis they are frequently built on. Responses to this review We have just bought a Fiat motorhome and it’s the biggest load of c**p, it’s never been right from the day I put the key in it. An abundance of gear box problems: 1st and 2nd gear, then 5th and 6th went; the clutch stinks, and reverse gear is far to high for the vehicle.. What a nightmare! It’s been in the garage for well over a month and Fiat customer service is appalling; a word that sums up Fiat in a nutshell. I’ve no confidence in the vehicle, just a mountain of stress - Mike Palmer from Cardiff I bought 4.5 tonne Burstner motorhome Dec 08, which was pre-owned. First reg July 2007. I have had problems with reverse judder then had to replace the clutch after 15000 miles, the gearbox has now let go giving no drive. There is 16000 miles on the engine, the Fiat agent can’t tell me whether there is warranty on this vehicle as it is a motorhome. I have been driving for 36 years and haven’t ever replaced a clutch nor gearbox in any other vehicle, on top of these problems I have had several breakdowns due to corrosion of earthstraps etc. This is not good enough for 70000 pound vans. I will never have another Fiat but who will buy this one? - Kerry McLernon from County Down Submitted: 23/03/2009 09:53:14 | ID: 2682 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Glyn Thomas, England Fiat Ducato MWB 2.3 2007 I purchased a van on 22/09/07 from a local Fiat dealer. Faulty back light replaced 3 times. Fuel pump failed off road for 2 weeks. Back doors wouldn’t stay open. It is now been off the road for another week + waiting for passenger door mirror after someone knocked it off. I am not happy. I am changing van this week as the local dealer is useless. I hope I get better service with the new LDV. Was thinking of buying a new Fiat Panda for my wife but going to by Daihatsu now. I would like to warn other people not to buy a Fiat van or anything to do with Fiat. Lovely van let down by local dealers and Fiat’s attitude. The van is badged as professional but it doesn’t do what is says, it’s second rate. If you would like to phone me on this matter my number is 07968134260. Submitted: 09/02/2009 09:22:50 | ID: 2491 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Frank Gilmore, County Armagh Fiat Ducato 2003 Clutch went twice... gear box went... faulty shocks... Submitted: 09/02/2009 09:09:26 | ID: 2485 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Red Neck, Leicestershire Fiat Ducato 2.3 120 high roof panel van 2007 I’ve had this van for 13months (58k) now and it’s been nothing but problems. I’ve lost count at how many time it been to dealer; so far it has had new gearbox, clutch, turbo relay, turbo engine management system, reversing lights relay and countless other tweaking. It’s now a week after the turbo intercooler pipe came off and was replaced it has broken down again this time with yet more gearbox problems. I came to a roundabout today and put the clutch in and that was it - back to the dealer on the back of a low loader. That means that in 13 months it will have been off the road for about 4 months. Oooh the joys of buying a Fiat... Submitted: 28/01/2009 10:28:00 | ID: 2438 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Frank Shaw, England Fiat Ducato 2007 A customer of mine has just taken his Ducato into the dealers with a broken clutch; he bought the van 3 months ago second hand. Took gearbox out & dealers told him the clutch has exploded due to driver error & that it is the second clutch its had in 57000miles & there is no warranty on it so £800+ thank you very much! I personally saw the old clutch & the springs had tried shaking themselves free... this causes the judder which many are complaining about & eventually will explode. How can this be driver error when so many people are complaining of it? Are all the complaints from bad drivers? Come on Fiat... get a grip!!!!!! Submitted: 31/12/2008 09:59:03 | ID: 2329 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Frank Shaw, England Fiat Ducato 2007 Customer of mine just taken his Ducato into dealers with a broken clutch - he bought the van 3 months ago second hand. Took gearbox out & dealers told him the clutch has exploded due to driver error & that it is the second clutch it’s had in 57000miles & there is no warranty on it so £800+ thank you very much! I personally saw the old clutch & the springs had tried shaking themselves free... this causes the judder which many are complaining about & eventually will explode. How can this be driver error when so many people are complaining of it? Are all the complaints from bad drivers? Come on Fiat... Get a grip!!!!!! Submitted: 19/12/2008 10:46:51 | ID: 2284 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Leslie Thorley, Isle of Anglesey Fiat Ducato Motorhome 2008 Hi everyone! Everything you read on the Fiat 2.3 multi jet is absolutely TRUE. I have owned every model of the Fiat since its first early model. Their latest model has not been tested fully. Otherwise why would these very basic problems exist. For example - water ingress and, very important, reverse vibration shaking the gearbox to pieces. If anyone says this vibration does not exist they are either doing what an ostrich does or they are a Motorhome salesman. If this vibration happened on one of their Ferrari’s then the problem would be cured in the pits, not in 2years. They know what this problem is but they are playing the numbers game. When they say their technical team are working on this problem, this is an insult to those very clever guys who built this otherwise good machine. I ask just how long have they been building commercials. Finally, if you have this van then you must get a case number for future reference. Responses to this review I have taken delivery of a new Fiat Ducato this April, and along with many other problems I am experiencing reverse judder on anything greater than a slight gradient. Can anyone advise me of where I obtain a case number for this problem and from whom? - William Harrison from EnglandHi. I thought it only right to come back and report the final outcome of my reverse judder on my Fiat Ducato 2.3 on a 57 plate. On 18 Sept I had the second modification carried out and I’m pleased to report that all is now well. It’s taken nearly 2yrs to get the job done but they got there in the end. If you could lay your hands on a copy of the July edition of the Caravan Club Magazine there was a very informative article by Andy Stothert, a man who has worked very hard over the last 2yrs to get Fiat to come clean and admit that a fault did exist. Finally, I’m returning 30 mpg overall, the computer says a bit more, but tank to tank fillups show 30 mpg, not exceeding 60 mph. The van is 23 ft long and 3500 kg. If you need a case number Fiat UK will oblige. It’s all in your handbook, or phone 00800 34280000, your dealer will be your first point of call, he will test the van and take it from there. Good luck - Leslie Thorley from England Submitted: 10/12/2008 11:28:53 | ID: 2247 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Melvin Biggle, Staffordshire Fiat Ducato Motorhome 2008 I brought this Fiat based motorhome in May 2008. From day one we have experienced a severe judder. It only been back to the dealers 10 times; I say only because we have now abandoned this heap of junk on the drive, we are totally sick of it. On every occasion we reverse we end up back at the dealers for several hours. To date we have only done 2100 miles, approximately 500 of these have been done by Fiat. The dealer is useless. Responses to this review Our motor home is just 13 months old with 2,000 miles on the clock. It has had two modifications done and been inspected by a Fiat rep. The reverse judder is so bad we dare not reverse onto levelling blocks. Have today been told that they will do nothing morel!! Like yours, ours is in the drive - we daren't take it out for fear of burning out clutch, etc. - Mary Morton from YorkshireI'm considering buying a motorhome based on the Fiat Ducato and I've heard of this reverse judder. I've also heard that the more powerful engines suffer less. I have noticed that some lower-end coachbuilders offer an engine having only 100hp which strikes me as being far too small for such large vehicles. Many reviews report such reverse judder but I would very much like to know what the horsepower output their engine has. Please, any other reviewers, it could help if you also mentioned your engine's output - Philip Davies from StaffordshireHi! I’ve just got a Fiat ducato motorhome 09, and hey presto, at 2000 miles on the clock the 1st and 2nd gear went, then 5th 6th, then problems in reverse gear with huge shudderings and then a that clutch smells the street out. It’s done more miles on a back of a transporter! Fiat have been useless with the repairs, and it came up that there was 7 recalls on it. It’s been in the so called workshop for well over a month, with no estimate of when it’ll be ready. Stress? A mountain of it! Fiat customer service? I could right on the back of a postage stamp what they know about this, appalling. I wish I had bought a Mercedes - Michael Palmer from Rhondda Cynon Taff Submitted: 09/12/2008 10:15:51 | ID: 2240 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Ivan McGuinnes, County Armagh Fiat Ducato 2.3 130 hp Motorhome 2008 In April this year I bought a nice sunny new Fiat Ducato Base Motorhome; the 2.3 engine is very responsive and pulls well from low revs; the only problem I’ve had with the Fiat so far has been 2 duff batteries, 1 leisure and the engine battery. The dealer I bought it from replaced the leisure battery with no hesitation but it’s been a different story trying to get the engine battery replaced, the Fiat dealer has put up more fences than the grand national. I’ve contacted Fiat direct about it as I was worried about the service. It’s hard to get work done under warranty - what would the service be like to get an oil change? But I have to get it serviced by a Fiat dealer to keep the warranty active, they have informed me I can travel to Dublin to get this done! So, in conclusion, the main problem doesn’t lie with the Ducato but the dealers who service them. The first dealer I used even found a spare wheel on the van which was news to me as they don’t come with one! So that explains why I won’t be using them again. My Ducato has done over 5000 miles including a trip to Holland and many to the Republic of Ireland as well as England and I’ve had no problems with it so far (touch wood). One main note is to check the dealer service before you have any work done. Submitted: 12/11/2008 09:38:16 | ID: 2141 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Gerard Moyne, Northern Ireland Fiat Ducato 2008 I need people to contact me re: the difficulty with Fiat Ducato Motorhomes Vans! My 2008 4.5 tonne motorhome is shuddering in reverse gear and the clutch is burning when tryng to reverse due to a problem known by Fiat to exist. I am looking at taking a class action re: this problem and need anyone who has a problem to contact me. moyne@gpsi.ie Responses to this review Same situation as your self. 2 modifications done to 2.3 multijet gearbox. Reverse gear judder so bad daren’t use van. Today been told by Fiat that they won’t do anything else - Mary Morton from Yorkshire I have a Bessacarr 2.2 Ducato, which I bought new in October 2007. I too have had to replace my engine battery, and on two occasions have had to jump start it. I have reported the reverse judder to Fiat in Italy. Their reply was, they are only carrying out modifications to the 2,3. What is it with Fiat? They know they have a serious problem with the reverse gear, yet they refuse to acknowledge it. My worse nightmare happened after filling up at a very busy service station. It just would not start, and the battery showed it was completely dead. I stripped the battery cover off, pulled and pushed the battery leads on the positive side, and with great relief, it started. I have checked and tightened all the leads and now intend to replace the five strip fuses on the positive connection to see if this will solve the problem. That’s when I can find a local supplier - John Maddison from England Submitted: 10/11/2008 16:23:07 | ID: 2130 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote J Blogs, England Fiat Ducato 120 multi jet 2007 Done 34000 miles had a problem with the clutch. Pedal stays down you and have to pump it to change gear. Been in five times, still waiting for them to take out the gear box to check. Now the brakes have gone faulty, it would not stop. Been told the brake cylinder & servo are faulty but I have to wait for the parts to arrive. I won’t hold my breathe! Responses to this review Did you ever resolve the clutch pedal problem? I’ve got a CI Motorhome (05) based on a Ducato and the same thing keeps happening to us. After about 20 mins the pedal becomes stiff and squeaks loudly (when pushed down - not when raised). It then stays down and has to be forced back up. A couple of tricky and quite scary situations have been the result. The AA attended and were mystified. Did you get it sorted? - Ian Wright from Staffordshire Submitted: 29/10/2008 12:06:14 | ID: 2088 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Brian M, Cheshire Fiat Ducato 2007 Whatever you do - don’t buy a Fiat Ducato!!!!!! There are two very serious problems; one can kill you the other will kill your bank account. Fiat denies all responsibility and knowledge of course. 1. Steering mechanism where it leaves the cab has a rotating bolt that can catch on items - in our case the factory fitted carpet caught on it resulting in total seizure of the steering system, fortunately at low speed so we survived. Fiat’s response - not our problem! Checked other types of vehicles and these either have protection, bolt higher up out of harm’s way or no bolt protruding. 2. Judder on reverse - one burnt out clutch in 3000 miles. Lots of others Fiat owners appear to have this problem - Fiat say it’s within specification. In our view Fiat are both incompetent and acting in a criminally negligent way. They are producing vehicles they have serious defects and they know it. Whatever you do - DON’T BUY FIAT! Pity there isn’t a negative rating. Submitted: 28/10/2008 11:19:54 | ID: 2082 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Dwayne Stewart-Power, Berkshire Fiat Ducato Maxi 2005 We have 2 Ducato Maxis 51 plate 70k miles 06 20k miles, both 2.8 jtd - never had a problem... Fantastic - best van on the market to drive....Take loads of weight etc... We had an N plate 2.5 that was better & more reliable than the VW Transporters we have had & still have.... much cheaper too!...We have 3.0L extra long extra high on order... Hope its as good as the other 3... Ps My brother’s got an X plate as well & apart from 1 wheel bearing that’s been great to... Maybe we are easy drivers? Submitted: 23/09/2008 08:45:18 | ID: 1916 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Stephen Bond, County Down Fiat Ducato Motorhome 1998 I also run a Fiat Ducato 1998 motorhome which I have not had any problems with since I bought it in 1998. Submitted: 05/08/2008 14:19:20 | ID: 1748 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Jim Thompson, Berkshire Fiat Ducato Adria Motorhome 2008 I have had 3 Ducato’s since 2004 in motorhome form - a 2004 2.3l, 2006 2.3l and my current Multijet 2.2 100 dci. I am surprised at the low level of satisfaction of other owners on this site. I have to say that I have not encountered any problems with the Ducato and in fact find the unit a pleasure to drive and own. Submitted: 21/07/2008 08:58:56 | ID: 1686 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Andy Church, Fife and Kinross Shires Fiat Ducato Motorhome 2005 Bought new. Could never get to start first time, engine very noisey, took mechanics 2 yrs to find timing was out. Replaced:- electric window motor, part for horn, timing sensor, ignition key lock mechanism, part for heater,all within the first 10000 miles. Now the reverse gear has deveopled a problem and starts to burn when under any load such as going up hill. Huge gaps in cab doors, passenger always gets frozen. FIAT should stand for Fix It Again Tommorrow. Low intial cost but the maintenane and repairs will break you. Never again. Submitted: 08/07/2008 12:20:24 | ID: 1640 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Peter Hutchinson, Somerset Fiat Ducato 3.0 160 2007 I purchased the van in May 2007. I specified a multitude of extras at what appears to be a very reasonable cost compared with other makes. Problem No. 1 should have set alarm bells ringing. At 100 miles from new the van was in workshop having tow bar and roof rack fitted, when it was moved there appeared a large pool of oil on the floor. Local fiat dealer had van off road for over a week and reluctantly lent me a Citroen Berlingo whilst sourcing replacement oil seal from Italy (could have come from the most remote African state, the time it took!) To cut along story short the van is now in another Fiat dealer workshop and there it has been for the last 5wks whilst awaiting a new gearbox. Fiat have not got the 1st idea about customer relations. I managed to get the dealer to loan me their demo Ducato (a fact that they regret now) but this is no compensation for the inconvenience of not having my sign written fully racked out, kitted personal van. Not once has anybody from Fiat or the dealership contacted me - I’ve had to ring them every time (via Italy!!!) Look at the Fiat web site they proudly advertise the fact that they are aware how dificult it is to be without your van for even as little as half a day!!! As of today there is still no date when the van will be fixed. SAVE YOUR PENNIES AND BUY A BETTER VAN - FORGET FIAT!!. Submitted: 08/07/2008 12:01:13 | ID: 1637 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Alan Utteridge, Norfolk Fiat Ducato 2.2TURBO DIESEL LWB 2007 We purchased our Ducato van in July 2007. Since then it has been in and out of Fiat dealership constantly. The engine management light comes on it looses power (so called get home mode) and we have to park up lock /unlock many times for it to clear. This happens at least twice a day. Fiat have replaced many items on the engine management but to no avail, we are at our wits end. Our rating should be minus 5. Submitted: 02/07/2008 11:32:33 | ID: 1623 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Derek, Buckinghamshire Fiat Ducato 160 Comformatic 2008 I took delivery of a new motorhome with the powerful 160 engine on 02/06/2008. We decided to pay the additional �1400 and go for the Comformatic auto gearbox. On delivery the speedo trip read 48 miles, and at 139 miles (3 days later) the auto box died and we coasted to a halt. Selecting manual control made no difference, we had no drive at all. The motorhome was taken on a low loader to my nearest Fiat comercial dealer where it has undergone one and a half days examination with the computer attached to no evail. The dealer has been liasing with Fiat to resolve the problem but so far no joy, Fiat have now told them to remove the gearbox so they can examine it further. Am I alone here or are there others of you out there that are or have experienced the same problem?. Just one final note the dealer(who shall remain nameless at the moment) refused to take the vehicle back and told us in no uncertain terms that he would not allow the breakdown truck to off load this new motorhome on their sales forecourt. How about that for customer service! Responses to this review Having a fleet of swift manufactured motorhomes, all with the Fiat 3.0 litre turbo diesel automatic engine, we are now starting to hit transmission problems, One has been replaced along with the clutch under warranty at 14 months old 35000kms, and now they seem to be forming a queue to do the same. The actual repair under warranty alone took 6 weeks!! Three of those being Fiat deciding if it was a warranty issue. Anyone having similar problems? - Kay Slater from Nottinghamshire Submitted: 11/06/2008 13:37:34 | ID: 1549 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Martin, Staffordshire Fiat Ducato 2007 All I can say is, buy a Merc sprinter. I’m a courier done 120,000 in just over a year, Merc sprinter 313 cdi,and no faults at all. Buy a cheap van and you will always have problems. Responses to this review I totally agree with you, I had a sprinter for 8 years, let me down once when master cylinder packed up. I bought a Fiat Ducato 120 mwb with 5000 miles on the clock, the first week it stalled on motorway doing 70+ 4 times, now fixed but the juddering in reverse up a hill is unbelievable, feels like the box will explode! Now at 15000 miles it judders in first as well. Fiat’s answer was to put new gearbox mounts on, a waste of time. I asked the engineer to drive to a slope and reverse up it, he said no; we’ll just reverse with the handbrake on but did agreed there was a problem. I’ve been waiting 6 months for an answer, but have just been fobbed off when I phone. I think they are waiting for my warranty to run out in 1 year’s time. "Sprinter is King" - Waz G from England Submitted: 09/06/2008 09:24:07 | ID: 1545 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Keith Houghton, England Fiat Ducato 2005 Fiat Ducato 2.0jtd 55 plate. Dreadful van! Noisy back end sounds like suspension is about to fall off, handles dreadfully. Bald front tyres at 15,000 miles - 65 mph = 3200 rpm - 70 mph = 3600 rpm = bad fuel economy - uses diesel like its going out of fashion. Side loading door rubber seal falls off every time I open the door. I can see daylight through back doors when they are shut. I could go on for ever, this is my second Fiat and it will be my last. Trading it now for a Nissan Primestar. Not impressed at all. AVOID......... Submitted: 04/06/2008 08:32:16 | ID: 1526 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Len Digney, Perthshire Fiat Ducato 2.2 100 Multijet Bessacarr Motorhome 2007 I bought this Ducato based motorhome just over a year ago. It’s done nearly 7000 miles and has recently had its first service (a Fiat low mileage service) It’s great to drive, much better that my previous model Ducato with a 2.3 engine. The controls are all very light in comparison and you easily forget it weighs around 3 tonnes. Despite the low mileage, when it does get used it tends to be on 4 or 5 hour journeys and it is very comfortable over that period of time. I like its looks, handling, comfort and ability to haul around its permanent heavy load with relatively decent fuel economy. Problems? It’s had a recall done for an engine cover to prevent damage from water ingress. Another recall dealt with a steering rack issue. Separately from these recalls it’s currently on its third starter motor (including the one fitted at the factory) and the drivers side windscreen washer jet went phut. It was a bit juddery in first and reverse gear but that seems to have disappeared after it was serviced following a flash upgrade to its engine management computer. This also seems to have made it slightly more economical. I’m not impressed with my Fiat dealer though as they never seem able to fully deal with problems on a first visit. Responses to this review I have a Fiat Adria motorhome with a 2.2 100 multijet and have recently had engine management problems. The engine failed to start and some of the warning light symbols failed to show on the console. North East Van & Truck tested it with their computer and the computer print-out showed (among other unrelated items) a fault on the engine control unit (ecu). They deleted the error and the engine started but since then it has failed several times. Luckily, it has been at home when this happened. I couldn’t get the vehicle to the garage so I called out a mobile vehicle electrician from AP & P who has been indefatigable in trying to find the fault. It seems to lie in the area between the ecu (behind the fuse box under the bonnet) and the plug at the dashboard end (in the fuse compartment under the dash). The ignition key code is not being recognised intermittently. Moving the plugs about on either end of this cable cluster sometimes brings up the missing symbols and the vehicle will start. I wondered if a Flash upgrade is the answer? Fiat have not offered that to me so far - D.W Duckering from Lincolnshire Submitted: 02/06/2008 08:45:25 | ID: 1514 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Nick Babs , Middlesex Fiat Ducato 2007 Purchased in June 2007. Engine management light always coming on. After 5,000 miles EGR valve went. No courtesy car from Desira, Southgate. Handbrake in a stupid position, cup holders useless, fag lighter doesn’t stay in, storage compartment falls open when going over bumps. GET THIS ALL YOU DUCATO OWNERS...... some crooks punch a hole under the rear handle, push a screwdriver up it and hey presto, opens the back. Lost £1,500 worth of tools, took the mechanism out, but they then done the drivers door. Heap of s***e. Learned my lesson - put in a little bit more money and buy something decent. Submitted: 02/06/2008 08:43:46 | ID: 1513 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Brian Hood, Perthshire Fiat Ducato 2.3 120 Multijet 2007 I have no problems with my Ducato Maxi. It’s done 10,000 trouble free miles, all the problems seem to be with the 2.2 100 hp engines. No leaks on my van either but I do have to agree - strong judder in reverse. It seems to be high geared, also best looking van on the market . This is my 2nd Ducato and the last one was no trouble neither. Submitted: 28/05/2008 12:10:53 | ID: 1506 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Kevin Ryan, County Antrim Fiat Ducato 2.3 Multijet 2007 I purchased a Swift Bolero in May 2008 with the Fiat 2.3 Multijet engine. When we arrived back in Northern Ireland the engine would not start and I was left until last so as a mechanic could jump start it. A brand new vehicle. How embarrassing is that? The battery was dead and had to be replaced. I believe this is quite common with this vehicle but Fiat will not accept any responsibility for any vehicles that have been around for a while waiting for conversion. The motorhome dealer had to replace the battery. On my first trip away the injector warning light came on and the engine cut out. I was lucky that I was able to freewheel off the road into a lay by. I restarted the vehicle but the warning light stayed on so I continued on to my destination. A few hours later I started the vehicle and the light went out. This happened again on the way back just as I was approaching a coned off area on the motorway and I just got pulled in where the hards houlder ended. Again it started first time but the light stayed on. As the vehicle was dangerous I immediately booked it into a local Fiat dealer. On leaving my house I let the handbrake off and the button flew out of the end of it. I was on a steep hill and had to temporarily fix it while still keeping my foot on the foot-brake. On the way to the dealers the glove box door dropped open and it appears that it is a very bad fitting. The dealer has now fixed these items but can’t be sure that they will not re-occur. How can I trust such a vehicle? I intended to go to France this June but I think I should give it a longer road test before I go. While it was at the dealer they also did other warranty work including the cover for the engine to stop the water ingress. One of the technicians said he didn’t think this was lasting solution. A motorhome channel on YouTube shows the problem - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TWjrqpO4rI Submitted: 28/05/2008 09:29:10 | ID: 1499 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote John Scott, Shropshire Fiat Ducato 130 MultiJet 2008 I purchased the new Fiat 130 MultiJet. It has done 1,100 miles and I have dicovered a vibration on 1st and reverse gears. I have spoken to a local dealer about this problem where I was told that Fiat do not recognise this fault. Has anybody else had this problem? Submitted: 19/05/2008 09:35:10 | ID: 1480 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Mark Brown, Cheshire Fiat Ducato 2.2 multijet 100bhp 2007 Purchased this van Nov 2007, van is OK apart from some problems. Problem 1 - uses a lot of oil. Problem 2 - water ingress in the rear of the van, this has caused the wood paneling to go moldy (only happens when it rains). Problem 3 - speedo in not accurate 10mph out of sync . Problem 4 - syncromesh has gone on second gear. Problem 5 - to many recalls on this van even though the van gets sorted out free of charge this still costs me in lost business of up to £800 per day as Fiat do not provide a loan van. Apart from these problems the van is good and puts a good image on my business; also very comfy. I had a Peugeot Boxer for 5 years and never had a problem with this. Submitted: 23/04/2008 09:41:50 | ID: 1324 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Keith Phillips, Shropshire Fiat Ducato 2.2 100bhp Multijet 2007 I purchased the van last year as secondhand, with 4000 miles on the clock, August 2007. I have put another 14000 miles on the clock since, have encountered two faults: water ingress through the gap in the middle of the rain gutter below the windscreen, leaking onto the engine around the injectors and a warning light on the speedo to do with ignition/injection problem, went out after two days though. I tried to get the van in to have the warning lamp problem investigated, but could not get it seen to until over a week, by which time it had sorted itself. Van whent in for recalls at Guests Motors in Willenhall, could not see what they had done, as the gutter still leaks and no cover fitted to protect the engine from water ingress, just a smearing of some sort of gunk around the injectors. Van runs fine but seems to take a good while for the temperature gauge to rise to normal. Sometimes it idles a bit erratic when first startup then settles down once it has run. Glove box does not close tight and looks as though it is about to fall open when shut. No judder as yet on reversing. Don’t like the feel of the brake pedal when ABS is in use, feels like its running through grit. All said and done, I still prefer this van to my last one, Vauxhall Vivaro, nightmare on wheels! Submitted: 18/04/2008 15:07:23 | ID: 1283 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Leonard Smith, Shropshire Fiat Ducato 3.0 2007 Scuttle leaks apart , the van has performed very well. The reported shudder in reverse gear has not effected my vehicle to date and I have not gone out of my way to make it happen. All other recalls carried out with no problems. Len. Submitted: 25/03/2008 09:34:51 | ID: 1186 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Eugene Weaver, Norfolk Fiat Ducato 2.2 TURBO DIESEL 2007 We have had this van for 8 months done 36000 miles under duress egr valve faulty fiat will not change until "further tests have been done" van brakes down at least 5 times each journey due to valve. So far 7 recalls done more to be done. number plate lights corroded away and part of wiring loom too, drivers seat broke, door mirror glass fell out when door shut, new discs & pads fitted at 35000 ( last 2 vans did 100000 before new discs, same driver same job same everything ) pretty van but pretty poor. Responses to this review Hi. Eugene, I hope you dont mind me contacting you. You had 7 recalls, I’ve only had one for the computer, customer service didn’t give a monkeys. What were your recalls if you don’t mind me asking? I have a Fiat Ducato 2007 Turbo diesel, I bought it new and it’s only done 12500 miles. I did think that buying new would been better as the 3yr warranty would cover most of the problems - learnt my lesson with Fiat - Harry Butler from England Submitted: 28/02/2008 10:06:24 | ID: 1082 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Tony, Sussex Fiat Ducato Motorhome 2007 If using this site for advice before purchasing a motorhome of heavy use commercial van BE VERY CAREFUL, Take a look at http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10368&posts=160 and http://www.outandaboutlive.co.uk/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10500&posts=50 Other motorhome forums and Fiat forums seem to carry similar information. Submitted: 18/02/2008 10:14:10 | ID: 1043 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Steve Cooper, Devon Fiat Ducato 2006 I purchased a Fiat Ducato 2.2 multijet 100bhp in March 2007, this vehicle was 6 months old and had been used as their demonstrator the mileage was 1130. I am on a 56 plate (new shape). Since i purchased this van i have had 3 new glove boxes because the catches kept on breaking and it would fall down whilst driving. I have had the air scoop on the bonnet replaced because when it rained the rain water would drip onto the engine because it was the one for the LHD model; i have had a new indicator stalk because of a fault with the indicators blowing fuses. I have had the electric door mirrors replaced. And to finalize in mid November 2007 on a Saturday morning on my way too London the engine management warning light came on. i tried to get it looked at whilst i was in London but i was told i would have to leave it with them for a week as they were too busy to look at it so i contacted fiat Exeter where i purchased the vehicle from. And limped home on reserve power and took the van in the next day, i was told the needed the van for 3 days as there was also 15 recalls on this model. The van is still at the dealership and i am driving around with a ford transit thrifty hire van. As fiat cannot get the parts needed to repair my van. It is now getting on to nearly 3 months. That is 3 months i have lost off the guarantee and the tax insurance i have been paying and 3 months of finance... has any one else had problems like these? The mileage is now at 18000. Submitted: 31/01/2008 14:14:22 | ID: 987 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Richard Bull, Newport Fiat Ducato 2.3 130 bhp 6 speed camper 2007 In Feb 07 we bought a new motorhome on the new fiat platform Apart from a faulty cab aircon switch this has proved to a fabulous machine. It drives and corners so well you tend to forget you are driving a 3.5t vehicle It pulls from low revs in almost any gear and it will easily exceed the motorway speed limits At 70mph speeds will return 25mpg at a more leisurely 60mph 30mpg. If there is a complaint it would be reverse gear which tends to be geared to high Submitted: 06/12/2007 09:18:02 | ID: 820 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Lewis Beattie, Mid-Lothian (Edinburghshire) Fiat Ducato 2.2 Multijet Diesel Engine 2007 We bought a Fiat Ducato/motorhome in May 2007. The engine has given us nothing but problems.The motorhome side of the vehicle is excellent with no problems. We had an oil leak so took it into the Fiat garage and they fixed it, we took it on our first intended two week holiday and had to return after two days with an oil leak, it went into the garage and it was fixed. We resumed our holiday and returned after three days another serious oil leak.The first two oil leaks were from the sump the next oil leak was from a seal behind the air filter?. We went off on holiday for a week and returned with an yellow light on the dashboard indicating ignition/injection problem. The garage said it was a clutch switch problem and tried to repair it but failed after two days, then the vehicle was recalled for FOUR recalls and the parts were fitted. We have not yet ventured out as the last part is being fitted at our house today, as not all the parts had been sent to the garage. Little faith in this engine. Responses to this review UPDATE: Nov 2010 - engine management system light on, so it is in the garage for repair instead of a computer reset. Part being fitted to clutch to stop judder. Hope to have issues resolved today. Arnold Clark ,Sighthill, Edinburgh looking after issues and so far are very helpful - Lewis Beattie from Lothians Submitted: 16/11/2007 12:42:20 | ID: 604 Respond to this review | Have your say | Request a quote Number of reviews: 85 Sponsored listings Submit your own review * First Name : Surname : * County / Country : * Make : * Model : * Year Of Make : Variant : Did you lease or buy? 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